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Liberals vs Lefties (discuss please)

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by lrrs517, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. lrrs517

    lrrs517 Internet Investigative Officer

  2. lrrs517

    lrrs517 Internet Investigative Officer

    I must say I often thought they were the same. Now I can say I went from liberal to conservative during my life. I learned from this video.
     
  3. 2blueYam

    2blueYam Track Day Addict

    The general point I agree with, but I am not sure about all of his classifications. Most of them are spot on, but maybe not all of them.
    Definitions change over time and failing to keep up with or notice that and then using the terms in their outmoded definitions can cause confusion.
     
  4. Motofun352

    Motofun352 Well-Known Member

    Interesting video and I would agree about his description of liberals....from 50 years ago! All of his examples of "liberals" were from way back. I dare say that FDR and JFK would be considered conservative by today's liberals. I don't see any hope of the democratic party shucking off the leftist diatribe.
     
  5. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    I view ANY Dem vote, and therefore Dem voters, as anti-American scum. I dont need definitions.
     
  6. gixxerreese

    gixxerreese Well-Known Member

    I agree that is something of the past. Dems are socialist and some want full on communism. The blue collar dem is extinct. With that said we can make the same post about republicans.
     
  7. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Well-Known Member

    That is why I don't call them Liberals, they are not. They are Progressives which is close to socialism, marxism or fascism rather than liberalism.
     
  8. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    All that seems to matter anymore is whether they're D or R. Regardless of whether the D is Liberal, Left, Progressive, Socialist, Communist, or whatever, Party Identity Politics will require them to vote for whatever lunatic bullshit another Dem puts up, and vote against anything an Rep puts up, regardless of it's merits.

    It's time to clean house and restore our congress to it's original role.
     
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  9. Chino52405

    Chino52405 Well-Known Member

    All of it is just labels while the majority of Americans identify with elements all over the spectrum depending on the topic. When it comes to social issues, what is a liberal vs conservative position? On many social issues you'd imagine a conservative to favor freedom and no gov't interference with private lives but how then would R's reliably court the evangelical vote? On immigration, I'd expect a little more concern from liberals about just who we let into this country since every new person coming here with strong religious ideologies is another potential mind to have to change on gay/women's rights.

    I'd love to see what it looks like when smart minds debate the issues without the party politics and voter block pandering.
     
  10. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    All the libs I know just parrot the party line these days, no matter how insane it gets.
     
  11. G 97

    G 97 Garth

    :crackup:
     
  12. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    The student body brings in ANTIFA and they riot, that's what happens.
     
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  13. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    It looks like freedom, but unfortunately the climate of our "system" prevents it. That's why I say we need to clean house. I'd really like to see the parties disbanded and campaign finance reformed. Senators and representatives need to be concerned about their constituents, NOT their party platform.
     
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