Discussion in 'General' started by sharkattack, Sep 19, 2019.
I will drive up there and by all the tickets.
Yep. I dont tyr to burn bridges unless I got truly effed over. I left a place (call it company I) 2.5 years ago for a customer of ours (Company N). I just started after being hired by my former boss at Company I with Company T.
This morning I sold Company T product to Company I. Easy peazy when you dont go all "Eff you mother Effers" on your way out the door...
There's another way to handle leaving a company?
Always best to not burn your bridges but that has nothing to do with either you mention where you're leaving off to.
It's none of there business but if they ask, I always mention it, if not, I don't brag !
Hope this helps
No reason to hide, everyone will see next week when you change your linked in anyway.
Very true about them buying themselves time.
Regarding the situation with HR, legally, I don't think they can say that. All that your current HR can say is "Yes, Joe is currently employed here." or "Joe was employed here from _____ to _____." Anything else, I believe they are opening themselves up for a potential lawsuit. Anyone care to chime in on the accuracy or inaccuracy of this?
Probably varies from state to state, but I believe that's pretty accurate.
Any information beyond that has to be provided willingly, either by you in the form of your application/background check/interviews or references from your former colleagues. HR cannot divulge much anything else, including whether or not you left the company on good terms (resignation) or not (termination).
*edit* from a quick google search:
There are no federal laws restricting what information an employer can - or cannot - disclose about former employees. And while most states have laws about what employers can legally disclose, and to whom, many do allow employers to share details about job performance, responsibilities, and professional conduct. Check your state labor department website for information on state labor laws that limit what employers can disclose about former employees.
If you were fired or terminated from employment, the company can say so. They can also give a reason. For example, if someone was fired for stealing or falsifying a timesheet, they can explain why the employee was terminated. Depending on state laws, employers may also be able to share general feedback on your performance.
That said, because of defamation laws (which is slander or libel) companies are usually careful about what information they provide to hiring managers confirming employment or checking references. What they say has to be the truth or the company can be subject to a lawsuit from the former employee. Legally, a former employer can say anything that is factual and accurate.
I used to tell them when I was younger - thinking it would impress or somehow let them know I could do better. I've stopped doing that.
My last job, I handled it by saying I was going to a network & security architect position at a national reseller, and left it at that. I didn't give names or elaborate on the position or compensation. I tried to be as general and quiet as possible on the way out. Not because I did anything wrong, but I've just learned that it doesn't do anybody any good. They don't really wanna know, and I finally realize no one cares but you.
When checking job history we'll usually ask if so and so is eligible for rehire
You don’t tell anyone anything , except bye ..
I’ve seen in the construction industry, people going out of their way to not let that person get hired and attempt to get job for themselves or others ...
My wife is HR, and I can say that is how it is in EU. She can only state facts, not presume to know what someone may or may not do.
"They are currently employed here", or "They were employed here during ____ time period". They can't (or aren't supposed to) talk about what someone said, or might do, or plans on doing, etc. Doing so is bullshit. Even if the person did say those things, they have no right to pass on that information.
literally just dealt with this 2 weeks back, I had a thread on the lead up for a few weeks... I put in my 2 weeks 3 hrs later I was walked , they were polite so was I. they wished me the best in whatever I had lined up next but never directly asked where I was going or why I was leaving. the one in charge was clearly not interested. if asked I would have told them, they couldn't have countered even if they wanted to. im not about burning bridges. I told the ones I cared about. and fully expect that info to make it around the block.
Depends on the industry.
I left one public agency to go to another (unrelated) public agency. Old boss knew he couldn’t dream of matching their offer. Said some nice things that he probably half-meant, and requested a formal resignation letter to close my personnel file.
But i wasn’t competing with his office, and i was the first of like 5 people to quit, so there was no reason to sweat my exit.
nothing until you get a better offer
I'm in the Control's industry, so everyone knows everyone. Have always been up front when changing jobs.
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I left my job of 20 years, 1 year ago this month. My current job actually scouted me out and called me directly at my previous place on the company phone. As soon as I hung the phone up, I told my at-the-time boss right away that they called with an offer and that I excepted it. He didn't really believe it until my last day there while I was walking out the door with all my tools 3 months later.Never felt so good!!!! And in conjunction with the other thread,it was actually a drop in pay since the last place paid 100% towards Health/Pension.......but I have a guaranteed annual salary increase that I will surpass the old place exponentially over the next year and forward. So short answer "yes" go ahead and tell them.
I’m in pharma; it’s the same way.
Only question I have... is can you still bring an emotional support escort for your last day, even if you initiated the employment separation?
I've never burned a bridge (that I know of), been fired, or not given proper notice, but I DID get some bad looks once. Left a job I was underpaid at that I stayed at too long. The last straw was being passed up for a manager job when my boss got promoted to director and I was her right hand man. Even after the next in line chick recommended me and turned it down because she had 3 young kids and didn't want it. She wanted someone with "managment experience", which meant she hired some nerd (that I found out she fired 4 months after I left) who I ended up having to train and teach him everything as my boss, instead of keeping me. Team was only 2 people, it wasn't some magically tough place or a huge group.
On my last day we all went out to lunch. At the time I had been playing poker a bunch to suppliment my shitty income, and she goes, "so if maybe we need you from time to time, could you maybe do some part time contract work and come back?" With a super straight face i was like, "well... I've been making like $240 an hour on average playing poker... so you can maybe pay me that and we'll talk." Consider this was a 20's junior job and my hourly rate was like 1/7th or 1/8th that amount. Her face and my VP's face just kinda looked like a mix between offended and a blank stare of shock with an awkward silence. It was glorious.
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