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k7 gsxr 600 no power!

Discussion in 'Tech' started by sicc, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. sicc

    sicc Well-Known Member

    Bike ran fine for half a track day then suddenly no power under load, hard to accelerate more than 60 mph and very slow to get there. It does not over rev, just bogs down. It starts, idles and revs fine. No error codes.

    Stock bike, 20k miles. I have been pulling parts off of my same model race bike.

    It is not missing.
    Replaced spark plugs, old ones looked fine.
    Swapped gas tank/pump.
    Swapped fuel injectors.
    Swapped Coils.
    Exhaust valve was sticky, wired open.
    throttle position shows accurate via dealer mode.
    valves checked/adjusted in the last 1 or 2k miles.

    where should i look next? I have not swapped any sensors yet. Havent checked compression.

    Thanks!
     
  2. iomTT

    iomTT Well-Known Member






    Have you tried swapping the ecu out?
     
  3. Rob P

    Rob P Well-Known Member

    Compression test?
     
  4. Pilotx1

    Pilotx1 Well-Known Member

    did you work on it in any way immediately preceding the track day?
     
  5. rk97

    rk97 Well-Known Member

    any chance it's something dumb like a kinked hose or cable?

    revs okay in neutral, but not under load?
     
  6. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    Didn't somebody just post something similar and it was related to the clutch switch?
     
  7. Pilotx1

    Pilotx1 Well-Known Member

    clutch switch only takes out likr 10-15hp on the top end and cuts max rpm by 3k. no problem at all getting to 60mph though
     
  8. iomTT

    iomTT Well-Known Member

    I am guessing a fuel map issue under load hence I asked about swapping the ecu out
     
  9. sicc

    sicc Well-Known Member

    I picked up a test tool on the way home today. I warmed the motor, tore it apart then ate dinner, cuz I have a-d-d I guess. So pretty much the test was luke warm to cold motor.

    Cylinders 2-3-4 showed 185-175-185. I tested #1 two times, both times at about 175. The odd thing that noticed (scared me) is that around 140-150 psi #1 started to make noises. I couldnt tell if then noise was from inside the motor like a valve or somethin or if air was escaping the test tool. I put the tool back in a 3rd time and recorded with phone to show you guys, but this time it would only reach 155 and no noise.

    I put the battery tender on it and will check again tomorrow, maybe it just drained too low.

    Negative. 90% street bike and ran fine prior.

    a) not fuel related. any hoses I should look for, like engine breathers?

    b) I ran it side by side with my bike and it seems to be close enough.

    I will try this next.
     
  10. jimfowler

    jimfowler Well-Known Member

    have you checked your charging system and/or battery condition?
     
  11. sicc

    sicc Well-Known Member

    Follow up-

    Battery charged. Tested again, #1 two new attempts now shows shy of 190 psi. Tested #2 again for comparison, still shows 185 psi.


    Will try ecu swap in the next few days, donor bike needs its parts back.
     
  12. iomTT

    iomTT Well-Known Member

    If you slightly rolled off the throttle whilst underload and not preforming, did you notice it try to clean it self up so to speak?
     
  13. sicc

    sicc Well-Known Member

    Swapped ECU, no change.

    New information noticed...

    1st gear seems to stop around 8k rpm, 2nd around 6k. I had this happen on my 05 750, would quit about 8k rpm, it was a bad fuel pump. I have ruled that out already.

    Bad sensor(s)?
     
  14. Fencer

    Fencer Well-Known Member

    Location?

    I had this happen on a K3. It was a vapor lock on the vortex fuel cap not venting

    You may have a similar issue

    Also check the fuel sock, make sure it is not clogged
     
  15. hrc_nick_11

    hrc_nick_11 Well-Known Member

    Map sensor!
    Does it get worse the higher the gear you are in, and the faster the speed!

    So it does not know the ram air is increasing the air box pressure. Same thing used to happen on carb bikes if the float vent line was not connected to the bowls on ram air bikes.
     
  16. TWF2

    TWF2 2 heads are better than 1

    04/05 used to do that when servo goes and secondary plates don't open.
     
  17. regularguy

    regularguy Always Krispy

    and they don't sell the servo. You have to get the entire throttle body. Quick and cheap fix is to remove the secondary plates.
     
  18. sicc

    sicc Well-Known Member

    I swapped air boxes, no change. I assume the sensor on top of airbox is not the MAP. Which one is the MAP? there are 2 hoses off the airbox.


    throttle body already swapped.



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    So the GF has been doing most of the test riding (her bike) while I do the drinking and tinkering. I rode it last night, and when it tops out in 1st gear around 7-8k it acts like it has hit the rev limiter. It felt very much software limited and not mechanical, if that makes sense.
     
  19. crikey

    crikey Well-Known Member

    On the 05/06 1000's the fuel hose would get kinked sometimes when you lowered the tank and it works do exactly what you described at around 7k. Might be worth checking, or not
     
  20. RM Racing

    RM Racing Tool user

    This is one of the first things I thought this problem might be.
     

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