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Is Your Bike Competitive?

Discussion in 'General' started by Deadpool, Oct 12, 2019.

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Is your bike competitive in its class?

  1. Yes, its in the top-half of most grids

    6 vote(s)
    23.1%
  2. Yes, its as fast as any bike out there

    6 vote(s)
    23.1%
  3. No, but its close enough to make things interesting

    11 vote(s)
    42.3%
  4. No, but its better than nothing

    3 vote(s)
    11.5%
  1. Ducti89

    Ducti89 Ticketing Melka’s dirtbike.....

    Minis ftw. And aftermarket master cylinders.
     
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  2. mgiossi

    mgiossi Well-Known Member

    For a bike that is from 2008 i think i have made my bike pretty close to as setup as it can be. The bike is faster then i am. It still could have more hp but i think there is a balance in a well setup bike between hp and everything else.
     
  3. britx303

    britx303 Boomstick Butcher…..

    I'd love a 2008 cbr1000rr to race............jus' sayin'.
     
  4. JBowen33

    JBowen33 Only fast on Facebook


    No CCS doesn’t but WERA does. I’m saying WERA should allow them. Better master cylinders imo are a safety upgrade not so much a performance one.
     
  5. jeffrop

    jeffrop Well-Known Member

    My 7 year old bike still seems fairly competitive..at the club level anyway
     
  6. Ducti89

    Ducti89 Ticketing Melka’s dirtbike.....

    Oh no. Now you did it. You opened the age old can of Schlitz on Dong Pilot’s fireplace mantle.

    Someone summon the Ducati shock link gods!
     
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  7. JBowen33

    JBowen33 Only fast on Facebook


    No I’m just trying to make a point that’s all. Not an argument or anything. As a person with a bike who’s front end brakes were garbage from the factory and as a person who has had many of sketchy moments due to heavy brake fade I think it’s a safety issue and not a performance issue that’s all. I know I’m not the only person that feels that way.
     
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  8. bfkidd

    bfkidd Well-Known Member

    I can attest to this. That 929 was a total turd on the straights! :p
     
  9. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    no worries... just amazing to me what you can buy these days for so little moola.
    I have a small 05/06 GSXR 1k obsession. Mostly because I was riding ZX12s & Boosas in the early 2000s... first thing I noticed is how much lighter and thinner the bikes were. I bought my first one in 2005 because it was like a few plugs and some tape from being track day ready. Then I realized I knew nothing about how to ride on a closed course so I went backwards to something with less power & more disposable. Been a great journey and honestly if you had told me that you dont need high hp to have fun... I would have laughed at you.
     
  10. Clay

    Clay Well-Known Member

    To be fair, it was a turd in other ways too. :D I also still wish I had it (as a street bike). Of course I also wish I had almost every bike I ever owned, ESPECIALLY that '75 Kawi Z1.
     
  11. pfhenry

    pfhenry Well-Known Member

    race a 3-4 generation old 600 with nothing more than an exhaust, a power commander, and proper springs in C class. Humility will occur.
     
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  12. Phl218

    Phl218 .

    Upgrade to a 2nd gen sv650
     
  13. racesbikes

    racesbikes WTB a Size 50/60 Race Suit

    For me, when I want to turn some fast laps....


    I sign up for the two-up ride with Jason Pridmore.
     
  14. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    My bike has durrani wheels so I win?
     
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  15. Gino230

    Gino230 Well-Known Member

    All of my stuff is very competitive for the classes. Mostly, that's because I wanted to eliminate as many variables as possible so that I could work on my riding. I really can't speak to liter bike stuff, but my R6 is very competitive in SS classes, and my FZ-07 is very similar to race winning setups in MotoAmerica.

    Same bike, same tires, No excuses. anytime I can't do the lap times, it's not the bike's fault. Just work on yourself!
     
  16. tgold

    tgold Well-Known Member

    If your bike has garbage brakes from the factory and the class requires a stock master cylinder then it is not a safety issue for the following reasons:
    No one is forcing you to ride a particular bike for that class. Go buy a bike that has better brakes.
    No one is forcing you to use the brakes beyond their capabilities. Figure out how to deal with the issue by using the brakes within their performance envelope while improving other areas of your riding or bike to compensate.
    The premise of racing is to compete for the win. If you are not willing to do more than everybody else in the race in order to win, then you have no excuse. That includes being willing to push yourself more if necessary, spend more if necessary, prep better if necessary, etc. If you are winning already with crappy brakes, then what are you complaining about?
    As for a better master cylinder not being a performance improvement, that's complete nonsense. You put the thing on because it performs its job better. Thus, it enables you to perform your job better.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2019
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  17. RichB

    RichB Well-Known Member

    It's unusual in more ways than this point alone, but when ole Shaun Harris dropped by for a few months he borrowed someone's clapped out 03 R6 and podiumed his races in the local 600 sprint races in a mix of SS and stock, maybe even first, it's been a while. He beat most of the field by the exit of T1. That bike was a POS but was suddenly competitive.
     
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  18. L8RSK8R

    L8RSK8R Well-Known Member

    Ban Mongo.
     
  19. Jon Wilkens

    Jon Wilkens Well-Known Member


    All you need to do is compare your lap times with lesser classes...if they are doing better times than you...it's you that needs work, not the bike. Get the bike set up well, and then learn how to get the most out of it. Club racing is all about the rider, not so much about the equipment.

    As far as my bike being competitive in it's class...very. As long as your bike is in the ballpark performance wise...a good rider can more than make up for it's deficits.
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2019
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  20. sdiver

    sdiver Well-Known Member

    If all bikes were raced stock then you might have a point. Seems rather arbitrary to allow many supersport mods for vatious reasons but not master cylinder.
     

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