Illinios proposes a Tesla Tax

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/illinois-1000-electric-vehicle-legislation

Ummmmmmm what a sick joke!

Ever driven through Chicago? They put orange work zones up all over the place....but NOBODY actually does any road work.

They're collecting tolls galore on your trip through the city.

NOBODY actually does any road work.

Of course....it's a f*cking Democrat proposing this....he must need a new summer home in Key West or something. The "Writing Children's Books" Democrat scam had the roof blown off it in Baltimore...so on to a new scam.

 

Democrats are junkies addicted to taxing the shit out of others.

 

In this case, I don't see the problem.
They don't pay the tax that pays for the roads
they drive on so a new tax needs to be levied
on electric vehicles so they pay their fair share.
What's wrong with that? They already get tax breaks.

 

If the money went for what it's supposed to go to, that wouldn't probably be an issue, but we are talking about Illinois and Chicago.

If you've driven through that area, realize how many people/drivers/cars are in that area contributing to the highway funds with their tolls and gasoline taxes,
and you see how bad the roads are, yet there are "road construction zones" everywhere....some 20 miles long....and NOBODY is actually working on the roads.
I've been an occasional driver through the Chicago area since 1991, and I SWEAR the "road construction zones" I've encountered in 1991 were STILL marked as such
in 2011. In 20 years, did they use the money raised via taxes to fix ANYTHING?

Yet you know a solid shit ton of money every day is going into the local and state governments.

Maryland's the same way with the Casinos....they sold the people on how the money would go to "Education".

Last month it was reported the MD Casinos brought in $145 MILLION dollars.

Whoopeeeeeeee!!! Maryland's schools should be the pinnacle of American Public Education right?

Why are Howard and Baltimore counties (two of the major counties in MD) proposing income tax increases due to educational budget shortfalls?????

 

Fuck Tesla owners. My tax dollars shouldn’t go toward subsidizing their purchase or any other purchases and industries.

 

I did the math...my state's gas tax costs me about $700/yr for the 20,000 miles I drive in the family car. Add in the $60 for the renewal and it's pretty close to what Illinois is proposing. Seems about right to me. I actually would like to do away with gas tax, the tire tax. I like to see a mileage and weight based system. The 18 wheelers do 9000 times the damage to the roads as a normal car. Couple that with the extreme mileage that they put on and you quickly see that that is another industry that is supported. Put the heavy loads back on the railroads where they belong.

 

Heavy trucks already pay a mileage tax. 26k+ lb. vehicles pay an apportioned tax to each state they roll through based on the miles they run within that state.

But a mileage tax based on GVWR seems to be the most equitable means of financing highway departments.

 

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“It’s outrageous,” Tesla owner Nicoletta Skarlatos, 56, told the Chicago Tribune. “I thought Illinois was progressive and would want to encourage EV (electric vehicle) ownership.”

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Obviously he does not know that Progressivism is really collectivism and what is his is really the states. Vote (D) for repression (and sadly many (R) )

 

I'm just gonna throw this in...

It's fucking Illinois. The sooner the New Madrid fault shakes Cook County into Lake Michigan the better. I just hope Will and Du Page go wth it and we survive the quake.

This piece of shit governor we have now is just the second (or third or fourth) coming of the same ole Cavalry.

The thing that scares me about this one a bit more is he is so brazen about it. "I'm a billionaire silver spoon, I can pander and fuck things up even more and I'll still be a billionaire."

The only thing keeping us here right now are the Grandparents.

End of discussion/rant.

 

Short term subsidies to give industries a boost is ok in my book and we do it all the time as long as there is a good projection of it paying off. But the problem is once the subsidies expire, we keep extending them because no government program is ever killed, they just grow like cancer.
When the biofuel, wind, solar, etc industries can't sustain themselves then it's time to let them die off. No more of our tax dollars should prop them up. The next one that I'm not happy about is the electric truck scam. Big fleets like UPS are getting a bunch of Tesla trucks which will work ok for short runs but you just know that when the time is up on these "free" trucks, the taxpayers will be on the hook to buy more.
Fuck Tesla and fuck the politicians that spend our money on this unicorn bullshit.

 

Farmers included. They’re the #1 welfare recipient in the country.

You clearly have no idea of how commercial vehicles over 26,001lbs are taxed. I’ll spare the education, as many states have different formulas, including only mileage and/or weight and mileage formulas. But, two bottom lines are: the transportation industry is in no way subsidized by the government (they’re actually constantly attacked by the bureaucracy) and the average 18-wheeler pays more in tax per mile than the entire ownership/operating costs of an automobile.

 

wait a sec. The mere fact that government builds roads for trucks (and cars) is a government subsidy.

 

62% of farms do not receive subsidies...2017 only $7.2 billion was distributed for mostly corn, soybeans, wheat, cotton, and rice, which is a drop in the bucket when compared to:

Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and marketplace subsidies: Four health insurance programs — Medicare, Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace subsidies — together accounted for 26 percent of the budget in 2017, or $1 trillion.

 

Yup, good point. 2017 revenue was $3.3 trillion. I maybe should have used another comparison such as welfare. Medicare taxes pay for $289 billion of its cost. Still ~100x the amount spent on farm subsidies.

 

I may have misspoke. What I meant was the number of people receiving for their total population (ratio?). Even then, I may still be incorrect.

My thoughts come from the fact I don’t know a single farmer who doesn’t receive subsidies. In IL, only 26% of farms do NOT receive subsidies. Even the smallest I know (63 tilled acres), received ~$10K, last year. In 2017, my county received nearly $19M in subsidies. Absurd!

Local USDA officers have setup all these guys to receive maximum benefit, within the regulations. Families sub-divide their assets into individual entities, so they all receive something. Of the top 20 recipients (receiving 85% of all payments) in the county (5156 total recipients), 6 are of the same family and operating as individuals. It’s complete bullshit, because they’re all multi-millionaires and show profit, every single year. Even worse are the Forbes listers receiving subsidies from their ventures.

The entire system needs audited and revised. I don’t believe the farm industry is so volatile as to need protection. If a farm faces challenges and collapses, so be it. Another farm will scoop up the land and continue operations, just like any industry. There’s always someone waiting in the wings. Further, the demand for grains will always be there, just like automobiles, gas, clothing, etc. I can’t recall any other industry receiving continual protection. Feel free to correct me, though.

 

What the whole US does not benefit, you don't like to eat inexpensive food or wear cotton clothes?

There are lots of different factors to make a farm profitable and IIRC most is spent on crop insurance. In the local area for West Texas last year, lots of farms did not take out the insurance for the cotton and lost it due to late rains. Two years of a lost crop will put a farm under.