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I almost like Lorenzo now....

Discussion in 'General' started by boccarp, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    The point here is that it was enough to win on, even if there was better.
     
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  2. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    It was enough for Stoner yes, no one else could pull it off. With this version even Dovi won what, 7 times last season?
     
  3. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    I think Rossi would rather be compared to Stoner than to Dovizioso (with all due respect) when it comes to determining the pecking order in the past 10-15 years. I seriously doubt that he ever thought "even Dovi can't win on this" to feel better during those two years. Just my opinion.
     
  4. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    My only point was in response to the comment about winning on the current Duc making Jorge now a GOAT. Him winning on this package isn't something you can compare to Rossi not winning on the old one. Nothing to do with Rossi bragging how he could or Stoner doing it or any of the other shit people want to argue about.

    As for Dovi you're kind of helping prove my point, no one looks at him as being a super great Stoner level rider, so if he's winning it proves the bike is a lot better :D
     
  5. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Or it says something about their relative abilities to develop a bike as the lead rider for Ducati. :D
     
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  6. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    You're stretching on that one a whole bunch :D
     
  7. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    It says everything about Gigi's ability to turn a shit pile into a gem.
     
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  8. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Thanks for agreeing with me. Tell Mongo who made it a shit pile. :crackup:
     
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  9. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Who can even remember his name? Audi stepped in and canned him then he disappeared. Health reasons or Italian mafia not sure.
    In any case he was the Boss. Ultimate responsibility lands squarely in his lap. He was the guy in charge.

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    I think that's the guy who designed the bikes Stoner won all those races with. :D
     
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  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I'm really confused now - what are you arguing? I know who made it work and I know Stoner could ride it when no one else could and I know Rossi couldn't fix it no matter what the Uccios or his ego thought.
     
  12. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    I think that guy got lucky he had the one rider who could win on it. And Casey butted heads with him over the bike.

    Who was the last team manager you heard of being fired? Ever? Not just fired but removed completely from the racing program.



    ETA: Oh wait, I just remembered Jeremy Burgess o_O Hmm, maybe all this is Rossi's fault. :p
     
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  13. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    The Honda guy, a couple of years ago?
     
  14. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    The moral of the story is -

    Casey Stoner > Valentino Rossi.
     
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  15. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    On the old Ducati - absolutely.
     
  16. motoracer1100

    motoracer1100 Well-Known Member

    You promised me a map ... send me one to your house :eek: :D
     
  17. 50Joe

    50Joe Registered User

    Stoner didn't really like the Ducati back then. He said the front lacked feeling and feedback. He simply ignored that and rode the hell out of it. Nicky and Rossi couldn't ride past that. I knew when Ducati stole Gigi away from Aprilia things would change in a big positive way regarding the handling.
     
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  18. track wagon

    track wagon MCAS MIRAMAR

    That wont ever happen!!
     
  19. 418

    418 Expert #59

    For those who forgot...

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    I rest my case.
     
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  20. 05Yamabomber

    05Yamabomber Dammit Haga

    Where is that thread "George will never win another race"? I was a huge fan cause he rode Yamaha and the Ducati was so un-rideable at the time I agreed. Well, I have to eat crow now just like so many of you who were thinking the same thing. "Takes balls to switch manufacturers" Wasnt that what Rossi said? Rossi eating some crow right now too! Haha. I was hoping JL would re-sign to that Petronas Yamaha for 2019. He would have given the Movistar Yamahas fits too. JL is very driven right now and its great that the Italian team is supporting him 100% to finish strong season. 1-2 crashes for MM and these season could blow right open. If he keeps pushing Marquez you never know. I just love seeing someone else win right now since my bluCrew has lost their way. Hopefully they can bounce back in 2019.
     

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