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How long before rebuild

Discussion in 'Tech' started by Robert P, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. Robert P

    Robert P Well-Known Member

    Hey guys im just woundering.
    how much racing you can do before rebuilding your motor, and what do you use to judge if it needs to be rebuil Time, Miles, Days, ext?

    also what would you do for a rebuild, just top end, bottom end, just rings what about the valves.

    any info would be great thanks alot.

    Im thinking more along the lines of a good MW bike im running a 2007 R6

    thanks
     
  2. georgiadawg

    georgiadawg Elbows Out

    If it ain't broke don't fix it that's what i say
     
  3. RubberChicken

    RubberChicken PimpMasterT

    I have about 45 or so races on a stock GSXR750 motor and it just dynoed exactly the same as it did at the beginning of 2006 season. That tells me they are rugged motors.
     
  4. peakpowersports

    peakpowersports Well-Known Member

    If its stock, just make sure you keep the valves in proper adjustment. Check the service/owners manual for the recomended miles/time to adjust them. Seeings how its a race bike, cut that in half so they get done more often. Check the compression often and as long as you do those two things with no drop in compression you can get ALONG time out of it. Be sure to change/clean the air filter and change the oil ever couple races as well. If its a full race engine with decked heads, cams, ect.. I'd say atleast every season. Hope that helps.

    Nick
     
  5. Robert P

    Robert P Well-Known Member

    Well My R6 is built i raced it in 07 and im trying to decide if i have to have it gone through before 08 i didn't seem to get any slower at the end of the year. Looking at my estimate to get it rebuilt its more than it cost to get built in the first place so im thinking if i have to rebuild it why not just sell it and get a new one. and if the Valves need to be replaced thats another $1800 bucks at that ill for sure just sell it.
    Any more info guys would help. how do i do compression and lead down test. Where do i buy the tools at?
     
  6. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    $1800 for a valve job?
     
  7. Tunersricebowl

    Tunersricebowl Fog, onward through.

    Titanium, ain't it great?
     
  8. Mr Sunshine

    Mr Sunshine Banned

    For $1800 I sure hope its worth more than 5 hp to be able to rev your motor up just a little bit more.
     
  9. davetlr

    davetlr Well-Known Member

    what's the other option???

    let it alone and have it fly apart

    buy a used engine with unknown history
     
  10. peakpowersports

    peakpowersports Well-Known Member

    Seeings how those have a plated cylinder, you should be able to just drop rings or piston & rings in them with a very light hone, or not even with a fresh hone (be carefull honing plated cylinders... you can mess it up. should be cheap to have someone do it) So there your probably looking around $600 bucks for gaskits, pistons, rings & hone. Then just check the valves, probably can get away just adjusting them, maybe pop them and put in new keepers & springs. For under a G you should be able to freshin it up pretty damn good.

    Nick
     
  11. davetlr

    davetlr Well-Known Member

    You will have more than $600.00 in valves alone
     
  12. peakpowersports

    peakpowersports Well-Known Member

    But why replace the valves if they are not worn? Not sure how much valves cost on those bikes, but on CBR's all 16 valves can be had easily for 400 bucks, although that is just the valves, no guides, keepers, ect.
     
  13. TwoCycler

    TwoCycler Well-Known Member

    Discounts will vary, but new valves will run about $80 each x 16. After five AMA race weekends, the valves are worn out. At this point they can break and destroy an entire engine...take your pick.


    Rocky Stargel
    Team Stargel
     
  14. Mr Sunshine

    Mr Sunshine Banned

    I was talking specifically about the Ti valves.
     
  15. Tunersricebowl

    Tunersricebowl Fog, onward through.

    Ti valves allow more aggressive cam profiles which boost power everywhere.
    They do rev higher but the valves are off the seats quicker and stay open longer and that adds midrange as well as top end.
     
  16. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers


    From where??
    I bought a couple of sets of ferreas...never more than $35/valve for stainless.
     
  17. Robert P

    Robert P Well-Known Member

    The valves from a Yamaha dealer are just under $1800 Yes im sure i can get them at a discount.
    I guess i just want to know how many miles you guys are putting on your bikes before going through them?
     
  18. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    are the stock valves titanium?
     
  19. Tunersricebowl

    Tunersricebowl Fog, onward through.

    Indeed grasshopper, they are...
     

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