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Future of Healthcare

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by ryoung57, Nov 13, 2016.

  1. turtlecreek

    turtlecreek Well-Known Member

    it was full of rednecks when i was there in late 80's....
     
  2. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    It's now elite rednecks.... :D
     
  3. Pittenger5

    Pittenger5 Well-Known Member

    No one has given me a good argument about how to control costs. In a private market, thats relatively easy. If the government is footing the bill, every company that deals with them will just jack price because the government is paying for it. Seen it happen personally.
     
  4. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    My 8 step plan:
    1. Keep the gov out of it.
    2. Tort reform.
    3. Price controls on drugs.
    4. Reduction in patent protection time for drug companies.
    5. Legalize cannabis nationally.
    6. Tax processed food at double the rate.
    7. Require physical education in all schools, all ages.
    8. Require health classes in all schools, all ages.

    I am sure my plan, based in my ignorance of he problem, could be improved.
     
  5. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    Umm, how exactly do you enact #3 if you enact #1?

    Or #2?

    Or #4?

    Or #7?

    Or #8?
     
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  6. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Okay, we'll pass a bunch of laws and then get government out of it.
    Except for the enforcement part, we'll need government there.
    Oh, and paying for some stuff, we'll need a little government there.
    Other than that, though, no government.
     
  7. Pittenger5

    Pittenger5 Well-Known Member

    And does the thought of price caps on private products/services scare the crap out of anyone but me?
     
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  8. pickled egg

    pickled egg Tell me more

    There's a new pill for that. Ask your doctor. :D
     
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  9. Fonda Dix

    Fonda Dix Well-Known Member

    Did you miss the part where I said based on my ignorance? :D

    Yeah, my plan has some problems.
     
  10. caboose

    caboose I love peanut butter!

    Have you looked at the price of epipens in the US vs other countries with "commit health care"?
     
  11. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    I believe a couple of his suggestions would address that issue.
     
  12. Pittenger5

    Pittenger5 Well-Known Member

    Negative. But are you saying if we go to single payer a company is more likely to lower prices, or raise them?
     
  13. caboose

    caboose I love peanut butter!

    It could go either way. Just to provide some food for thought the price of an epipen in the US is significantly higher than in Canada where our government foots the bill.

    Single payer systems don't necessarily equate to higher costs.

    I do acknowledge that the current American system isn't a free market system so it does not represent the costs that would be incurred in a free market system.
     
  14. XFBO

    XFBO Well-Known Member

    Question caboose.....how does Canada handle medical related lawsuits?
     
  15. caboose

    caboose I love peanut butter!

    As in malpractice lawsuits?
     
  16. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Perhaps you should investigate the reason that epipens are cheaper in Canada.
    You can't root for the system if you don't know how it works.
     
  17. XFBO

    XFBO Well-Known Member

    Yes.
     
  18. caboose

    caboose I love peanut butter!

    Two main factors.

    Payouts are capped around $300K and the liability insurance is provided by a not for profit organization that covers all members of the Canadian medical association.
     
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  19. ahrma_581

    ahrma_581 Well-Known Member

    Not many yeller Ferraris in that.
     
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  20. Kurlon

    Kurlon Well-Known Member

    Have you looked at MSRP on American trucks in the US, vs what people actually pay? No one is paying MSRP for epipens.
     

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