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Hey, outrageously high IQ guy, can you at least entertain us and explain what your criminal justice major had to do with your profession now? Is that simple enough for you to handle/answer?

I won't even harass you about the likely unsuccessful attempts to become a LEO.... but honestly it makes me laugh, just a little. I'd guess either the background or psych did you in.....lol

Unlike you, I don't pretend to be an expert of all things LE related. In my region, police academies typically run 20+ weeks.... just another detail you're wrong about....genius.

 

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Wow...... that reply was soooo highly intelligent I might need to find someone local on par with your IQ to decipher it for me.

 

This is a train wreck I can't stop watching.

That being said, some of the personal attacks are crossing a line, IMO. Pretty classless to bring up someone's ex-wife in every other post.

Ryoung - "you have the right to remain silent".

 

Why the fuck should I give you a real answer? I don’t owe your bitch ass anything. Where are your credentials? Where’s your history? You’ve never done anything but say I’m wrong. You do not offer a counter hypothesis. You do not attempt to support your own arguments with any sort of facts, sources, or examples. You’re totally full of shit. I’d be surprised if you ever accomplished anything in your career besides just putting in the time, and even then you probably milked it with fake overtime, workers comp claims, to union grievances, and all the other tricks worthless leeches like you use to avoid being held accountable.

So, you guessed it,



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You can obviously see it isn’t just poor ryoung being attacked. He’s on the offensive plenty in here ... and other threads. For a guy claiming to just want open dialogue, he spends an awful lot of time stating everyone else is too stupid to waste his time with. It’s not that people disagree with him. They’re just “ducking idiots” that can’t grasp his superior intellect.

In other words, this whole thing is just one giant shit show on all sides.

 

It didn’t start out that way, but when the monkeys start throwing poo, sometimes you have to throw it back.

 

If the requirements to get into LE are low and pay is as low as you guys are claiming in your areas, then I can see where you might not get good people into LE. Things in MN aren't that bad and we have a lot of good cops here.

First you need a college degree, then academy, and pass all the background checks and psych tests, then the big departments MPD, SPD have their own training. Plus there is competition to get a job so you have to stand out. Starting wage for MPD is just under $70K (don't recall exactly). There are suburbs that start higher but you can't get into them without previous experience. It's a long process that normally weeds out the unwanted.

I've seen guys go to other states because of this and start LEO jobs. Is this state's requirements perfect? No of course not but higher standards and better pay have done a good job of attracting the right people.

 

Doesn’t justify the leap to “this must be because of the divorce”.

 

Well if you were an astronomic IQ guy running a multimillion dollar company and set to retire a millionaire at 50, that would probably sting a bit, losing your wife to a lowly public servant.

 

Dicks - all of ya! What burns my ass is that I can't really set it straight at the moment because of the bullshit I mentioned in the divorce thread. But on that note, I'd really appreciate it if you'd please drop the ex wife crap for the time being.

 

Not sure what I’d do because I’m not not will I ever be a police officer .

I know one thing I wouldn’t do tho. That’s jump into a fight or physical altercation with a deadly weapon still on my side and easily accessible.

I don’t think you can make the statement “they just want to get away” either.

If they are willing to get physical what else might they do especially in the heat of the moment ?

No way I would take that risk . Cops are always expected to control themselves yet we make no such demands of the one they are dealing with . Call me whatever you want but even if the cop is wrong you aren’t gonna win that argument on the street.

 

I'm not talking about somebody attacking a cop. That's not usually the way it goes down. What tends to happen is the person refuses to comply so the cop has to go hands on and the person resists (think of a kid who doesn't want to be spanked). The logic of "I had to shoot them because it was too dangerous to use non-lethal force because they might get their hands on this gun that I brought with me" doesn't really hold up does it? Getting into the "even if the cop is wrong" thing is a much, much larger discussion than even this disaster of a thread can cover, because for most of the people who get into those situations, it's not an argument you're going to win in court either because the judicial system is so twisted up that unless you've got a ton of time and money there's virtually no chance you'll be able to beat the charge, but if you do you'll most likely be ruined, having lost your job, savings, etc in the battle.

And I still think some of you guys aren't giving modern retention holsters the credit they deserve. There was a lot of push-back on these things when they came out because it's hard to get the gun out when you know what you're doing - it takes a lot of training and muscle memory, let alone when you're a bad guy who has no clue. Different models are different but you have to open/move the strap, then push down on the gun and either twist or tilt it in the holster before drawing up, and sometimes have to depress a button. Here's a link to a good description of several models. http://www.bluesheepdog.com/in-pursuit-of-the-ultimate-retention-holster/

 

Most decent sized departments in MO seem to start around $40k, maybe a little more. With OT and a few years worth of raises $50+ is attainable. However, a quick internet search shows several rural depts offering as little as $10/hr. Think about that for a minute. That's less than the starting wage at Wal-Mart or most fast food joints.

 

If that's true...wow.

 

Why wouldn't it be?


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