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Elbows a "new" thing?

Discussion in 'General' started by Past Glory, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. Past Glory

    Past Glory I still have several AVON calendars from the 90's

    The racing world is all aflutter over Marc Marquez and his elbow dragging riding style. The announcers on SPEED were hailing this as the next evolution in motorcycle racing technique. People think that just because they've never seen something before, it's never been done.


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    Jean-Philippe Ruggia on his Yamaha 500cc 2 stroke GP bike circa 1992, dragging elbow with the greatest of ease. No, he never won an event at the top level, but he was dragging elbow before Marc Marquez was even born.
     
  2. ew422

    ew422 Well-Known Member

    haha cool... how would you even know that??
     
  3. Jason P.

    Jason P. Well-Known Member

    dragging elbows sure makes for a sick photo.


    but i prefer the style of Rossi/Pedrosa over MM.
     
  4. Johnny B

    Johnny B Cone Rights Activist

    And don't forget the invention of the "Ruggia Clause" in contracts! :D
     
  5. Vstate60

    Vstate60 Jaspon&Armas, PA

    Like Mr. Russell said, plenty of folks have dragged a bow, but MM does it literally the entire duration of the corner. He monkey hangs of the bike like I have not seen many do.

    What's more amazing to me than that is how Hayes corners as fast or faster than everyone who is monkey hanging, but looks relaxed on the bike and seems to use half the lean angle and is at less angle for less time than the others.

    We've all seen the younger Josh shadow Hayes for lap after lap....and I'm sure you guys have noticed how much more upright Hayes' bike is than his predecessor.
     
  6. tophyr

    tophyr Grid Filler

    did you mean "protegé"?
     
  7. XFBO

    XFBO Well-Known Member

    I had grown to enjoy CS's style even more so than I ever thought, as Rossi's form always looked bad ass to me.

    Personally, as cool as MM may make it look, I just don't coo over it like so many others, maybe that'll change with time. As for hanging off the way he does, I always thought it was a trade off as to not need as much lean angle, has the dynamics of racing changed? :confused::D
     
  8. noobinacan

    noobinacan Well-Known Member

    speed tv is bunch of idiots. they have no clue...(except scott russell )
     
  9. Past Glory

    Past Glory I still have several AVON calendars from the 90's

    Didn't Scott Russell get "beaten" in Daytona one year?
     
  10. james walker

    james walker beat down, broken & busted

    i highsided my kids CRF50 trying to drag an elbow.

    draggin elbows is stoopid. :D
     
  11. rd400racer

    rd400racer Well-Known Member

    Not taking away from Ruggia because I hardly know crap about him, but if he was the first elbow dragger the pic at the top is hardly a good representation. You can easily tell that he is dragging it against an elevated curb.....MM was dangling out mid curve.

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  12. benprobst

    benprobst Well-Known Member

    +1 and on positive camber turns at that making the inside of the track even lower than parallel with his contact patch.
     
  13. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire

    What benefit is there to completely hanging off the bike like that when the other riders at his level are just as fast without spider-monkeying it?
     
  14. K Kling

    K Kling Well-Known Member

    But, they weren't as fast! At least not last weekend. :D
     
  15. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire

    Last weekend was a fluke :D
     
  16. Hanibal

    Hanibal Well-Known Member

    It's not so much that he's dragging elbows. Quite a few guys are doing that. He's dragging his hip along with his knee and elbow. Toni Elias rides quite similarly but he hasn't been getting much airtime since winning the Moto2 championship.
     
  17. cgordon3

    cgordon3 I need a new bike...

    :crackup::crackup::crackup:
     
  18. cgordon3

    cgordon3 I need a new bike...

    Is this going to turn into the next leg dangle move? :D
     
  19. 675AV8R

    675AV8R Jetski Extraordinaire


    :crackup: That's exactly what I was thinking of.
     
  20. crashman

    crashman Grumpy old man

    If you are running at the sharp end of MotoGP you can pretty much ride however you want. There are very few people who are in a position to criticize.
     

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