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Daytona 200 2022

Discussion in 'General' started by grasshopper, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Daytona kept it alive, it is and always has been their race no matter who has been running it.
     
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  2. SundaySocial

    SundaySocial Blue & Gold

    Wonder how the weather will be.
    SEEMS LIKE it would probably be warmer in March.
    No idea about rainy season in Florida. I would imagine it is like Hawaii and “Mc, MAC, paddywack” land
     
  3. thunderalley3

    thunderalley3 Well-Known Member

    As far as weather goes Christmas to Valentine's day is usually the coldest time of year here. Usually not rainy until mid February and Bike Week can be hit or miss on rain.

    All this talk about the "old" Daytona Bike Week and no mention of "Jesse The Human Bomb". That turns this into a dud !!
     
  4. stangmx13

    stangmx13 Well-Known Member

    Strange to mouth off about that when you don’t even sell that street bike anymore. Plus didn’t the price go up a ton? Ugh.

    If Kawi can sell one for $10k, why can’t anyone else…
     
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  5. nlzmo400r

    nlzmo400r Well-Known Member

    This is my understanding also. I love the idea of different layouts and machines that end up with similar lap times and different strengths/weaknesses compared to their competition.

    And as irrelevant as 600s are now i can’t wait to see 959, 765, mv800, hopefully gsxr750. If this means the start of 750cc 4cyl again what’s the downside?


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  6. The Beer Hunter

    The Beer Hunter Well-Known Member

    Is the Triumph 765 STR getting official FIM homologation? I imagine the Daytona won't get it as it is a significantly hotter motor. I haven't heard anything official yet.
     
  7. metricdevilmoto

    metricdevilmoto Just forking around

    Because no throttle by wire and essentially the same motorcycle with different bodywork since 13. I get the R6 has been the same since about 08, and, at best, since 12, but what's better? Things cost money. Be mad that they cost money if you don't have money, but buy them if you have money. The cost of entry is not the limiting factor here when it costs double and then some to make any motorcycle competitive at that level. So do or don't, but don't make it seem like $4k is standing in the way of a MA championship.
     
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  8. nlzmo400r

    nlzmo400r Well-Known Member

    765STR and 765 Daytona engines are the same. Even the Moto2 engine is the same aside from gear ratios and a stator and cover.


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  9. stangmx13

    stangmx13 Well-Known Member

    My comment was more about street bike sales and the “death” of this style of bikes. I know that MSRP has no effect on pro team budgets.

    I am peeved that somehow selling a non-street legal bike satisfies homologation rules. Maybe they asked for an exception. Maybe they didn’t need one. But it definitely seems to violate the intent of the rule. And what if someone produced a new model that was track only…
     
  10. MELK-MAN

    MELK-MAN The Dude abides...

    Daytona AND CCS/ASRA kept it alive... to say otherwise is just arguing.
     
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  11. grasshopper

    grasshopper Well-Known Member

    Were you ever interested in assisting in keeping it alive?
     
  12. Spang308

    Spang308 Well-Known Member

    Melka, did you ever give any thoughts of running the 200? I know it costs a boatload for one race and basically burns up an engine, but was it ever a bucket item for you or no?
     
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  13. Johnny B

    Johnny B Cone Rights Activist

    The apartment house where I stay hasn't changed. The neighborhood, on the other hand.....

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  14. Smilodon

    Smilodon Wannabe

    Boy, does that picture sum up Daytona lately... For better or for worse.
     
  15. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    It is and has been and always will be Daytonas race. Finding someone to run it isn't hard to do, they've had multiple iterations of AMA Pro and CCS do it. There is nothing to argue about. The people running it are a part of it sure but they are all easily replaced with someone else if the money is there. What can't be replaced is Daytona putting up that cash for the purse to attract the riders.
     
  16. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Thought about it sure but never any need for more than idle thoughts.
     
  17. khill

    khill Well-Known Member

    Quick data graph regarding the 765r - I rode one at the Ridge and while I liked the bike, I was under impressed. The bike was basically all stock, not even a flash. It ran well, handled well (after adjustments) but overall, I thought it was slow. Just for fun, here is a speed data graph with a Graves ZX6 vs the 765R.

    Note - I only did 2 2 hotlaps on the 765 and it was on Pirelli's vs Dunlop's on the Kawi. With a few more laps on the 765r, I could have easily met the Q time for MA. The main think is looking at the speed graph as it relates to acceleration.....

    Ken

    Stock765vsGMSZx6.png
     
  18. khill

    khill Well-Known Member

    My personal thoughts re allowing current bikes (R6/GSXR/ZX6) to go back to the older Supersport rules (heads, cams, airbox) to match the bikes coming in is a no. The massive extra expense in doing that, IMO, should be handled by limiting the incoming bikes to see where everything plays out, first....
     
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  19. The Beer Hunter

    The Beer Hunter Well-Known Member

    If I'm reading this right it seems like a race prepped and flashed Daytona 765 could be very competitive. Looks like the Daytona lacks the top end right now but that could be a symptom of Electronic throttles shutting like most stock liter bikes do. Also we are comparing a stock bike to a race ready Graves Zx6R which is essentially the tables stakes for MA Supersport.
     
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  20. HoyaXC07

    HoyaXC07 Well-Known Member

    765 Street Triple or Daytona moto 2?
     

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