Calling all self employed business owners who supply their own healthcare

That's the problem - those getting free insurance and getting cheap insurance when they are more likely to use it do not count. Their opinions are not viable and don't matter a bit in the discussion as they are getting shit for free that I and others like me are paying for. When they pay they can have a say in it.

No, that is not the same thing as the basic insurance gamble. Not remotely close.

Why do I keep responding? Because you keep making posts just like this. Your insistence that people getting charity by order of the law is cool is bs. Your other stuff like high blood pressure being a pre existing condition that kept your wife from getting insurance is bullshit. Doesn't matter what state you're in. You throw out shit like that as if it's true and why the ACA is good - you are flat out wrong.

 

Quit making up stupid reasons why the ACA is good then.

 

I call it effectively catastrophic because it doesn't pay shit until I'm out of pocket for more than 1/3 of my salary for the year. That would be a fucking catastrophe to me.

I don't qualify for what they consider catastrophic.

I have repeatedly said I have a normal plan through the government site. I pay close to 600 a month in premiums. I have a 6500 or 6900 (I forget which right now) deductible. It covers absolutely nothing that is remotely of any use until that deductible is paid. It does not cover 3 doctor visits - which wouldn't do shit if I have the flue anyway as the docs who take the shit insurance are booked two weeks or more out. It does not cover any prescriptions. I cannot pay the fine because I worry about something happening that could cost my wife her house.

Got any other assumptions you'd like to make due to your refusal to pay attention?

 

I don't call it Obamacare because he wasn't the only one bought off, every single fucker that voted yes on it screwed us over.

 

First - not pissed. Why would I be pissed about a posting on the internet? At the absolute most I laugh when you keep making assumptions about my insurance plan that aren't based on reality or anything I've posted. Especially amusing to watch you go sailing off in a different direction when your corrected.

Second - no you haven't used those terms, however that is exactly how your posts are coming across. You're holier than thou attitude about it's all good we pay more because it helps you and others. Yet at the same time bitching about what you have to pay is hilarious.

You evidently are having a hard time with all of this, maybe you're the emotional one? I've never said people getting free shit don't exist, I know they do and my health care costs have more than doubled to pay for them. I am saying they shouldn't get free shit. They shouldn't have a say in any of it. Yes, I know they do. Duh. They're the ones who made all of this seem like a good idea, now the lower middle class or upper lower class or whatever the hell I am gets royally fucked. Your posts don't piss me off but that part definitely does.

I know how I feel doesn't matter. I know how the tax deductions are paid for. I know all sorts of facts that you seem to think should change my opinion. Yet oddly they don't - freaky shit that. You really should stop making assumptions about what people do or don't know.

 

And here we have more assumptions.

What exactly are you trying to prove? Whatever it is you should stop. I do know my own coverage. I know it better than you do. I know what is or is not included. I do know that I am not eligible for what they call catastrophic coverage yet at the same time the cheapest plan they will sell me is nothing more than just that - even if they don't call it that. I already explained this perfectly clearly above, please at least try pay attention even if it means you may not know all you think you do....

 

See this is why people have been calling you names.

You insist on acting as if no one other than you knows how it works while at the same time acting as if it wasn't forced on us. Serious question - what is wrong with you? Of course it was forced on us, it's a law

Even better, it's a law enacted by politicians and as long as you keep arguing they're doing right by us it absolutely is a political matter

Another serious question and one I'd actually like answered - why do you keep insisting that we don't know how it works? I've proven repeatedly that your assumptions are wrong about my plan and that I do know how it works. Why do you keep acting as if I don't? Why do you keep acting as if anyone who hates it must be too stupid to understand it - and yes, that is exactly what you are saying every time you post that we don't know how it works...

 

So what, either I'm too stupid to understand my own healthcare plan or I'm lying? No you're pushing the envelop where I'm less amused and could get pissed. I don't like being called a liar. It's rather rude.

So come on since you know my plan inside and out - what did I say is happening that isn't? Be specific.