Back to health insurance...

Self respect and personal responsibility are so outdated. Get with the times!

 

Yes but you are also not willing to get on the dole, monster.

 

That issue is generally a positive character trait in my experience, I just had to terrorize you.

 

I got a quote for Obamacare today for my family of 5 in Arizona

The cheapest plan is $2,017 a month with a $13,600 deductable

It's 25% more than my mortgage!

 

Just smile and be happy that you are helping the bums and losers of society get in to a doctor for free when they have the sniffles...

 

How does his premimum pay for others?

 

When I had ARMOR the ama racing insurance, I always told people if I get hurt badly to take to the nearest race track. Lol

 

How do you think they get the money to give others tax credits? The whole scheme relies on enough people paying the ridiculous premiums so that they can funnel benefits to the "poor folks" that they hope will vote for them the next election cycle.

 

How does the guy who picks up the check at dinner pay for others?
This is real simple stuff.

 

Tax credits come from the government and funded by everybody taxes, even "poor folks" pay taxes. Premiums are applied to the individual insurance. If he didn't pay a premium then the insurance company would not be provided a tax subsidy. His premium does not pay for others "poor folks" insurance, his taxes does.

 

It doesn’t pay for the whole diner, it only pays for that table.

 

Do you really think 24 grand a year with a 13 grand deductible is the true cost of insurance for a family of five? By the way, the Supreme Court already decided that O'care was a tax so you both really are on the same wave length....

 

I never said it was.

 

The premiums are calculated based on a specific pool, not on an individual level. People are forced to pay a higher than reasonable premium to bring in extra money to help offset the costs of the freeriders.
And the whole taxes vs. premium argument. If you have money in your left pocket and your right pocket does it really matter what pocket the money comes out of? All I know is some people pay alot more in to the system so that others can pay less for exactly the same services.

 

Thanks, I now see your point but there are more factors that determine a premium. For me even different cities within the state affected the amounts. I read there is a rider on the tax reform which will remove the IRS penalty for not having insurance. I wonder which would be better Medicare for all, IRS penalty, or people walking away from hospital bills after being treated?

 

You can't do Medicare for all.
Medicare relies on their size and position as part of the government (read go along with us or we will crush you) to underpay for services. Others pay more so a profit can still be made.
All Medicare means no profit, thus no services.

 

So the government has never been a regulatory oversight for commerce?