Have you ever actually seen a Hardly Ableson make 145 hp on a streetable engine. I am asking as I just let a bunch of guys down who spent $10000 on an engine that made 109 hp with 117ft lbs of torque. They all said that the magazines say 125hp with one kit and 145 with another. They clain they purchased the 145 kit. I tuned from 85 hp with 106 lb tq to 109.9 hp with 117ft tq. I was happy, they were pissed. I tried timing and went both rich and lean with no gains from original tune I explained that a while back there was an ad for the R1 that said 185 hp YA RIGHT. I told them that the MAGS and factories give a BS or a crank output. In my 9 years with a dyno I have never seen a HD make over 115 hp. SO WHATS THE DEAL.. HAVE you seen a HD make big numbers???