Another Pirellis Question

Cant speak for the DOTs but I always ran a sc2 front and sc1 rear. I was always told that the front either sc1 or sc2 was a personal preference thing. For me the sc2 at a lower psi felt better. I too would run the front for 4 days of sprints and practice but I don't know if it every really felt bad I just would get it in my head that it's getting old. As for the rear, 4 sprints on a new tire and then it gets used for practice and a new tire goes to racing. Lastly I think $415 is about standard, I've never paid under $400 that I remember unless it was from a friend or something.

 

I contacted the other tire guy and they said $415 also. Maybe I’m losing it or got some sort on on-site track day hookup. I’ll put a order in for some tires in the next week or so with MOM. I think I kinda owe him the business since I non-purposely called out his pricing. Kinda feel like a dick now. :/

 

What’s this $400 about? I’ve been absent for a bit. Thanks for taking up for me, that doesn’t seem to happen ever on this forum.

 

In another thread @notbostrom was saying that he would die to go get trained by somebody like Ken Hill, as it would probably take 10 years off his learning curve...or something to that effect.

So then I pointed out @khill probably has at least 50 training days a year available, all he has to do is sign up for one.

Then he came up with the lamest excuse, it was on the wrong coast. I think he is afraid of planes or possibly working smarter to get faster? I know he has flown in a plane before, I met him in California

 

So generally you have these options going from the best and fastest race product to track day tires
Diablo Superbike slicks (you pick compounds with help from the track service guy or previous experience) These are the fastest tires and in a wide range of sizes from Moto 3 to WSBK
Diablo Supercorsa V2 DOT race tires (you pick compounds with help from the track service guy or previous experience)
These are available for everything from a 300 to a 1299
Diablo Superocrsa V1 DOT race tires
These were the race tires from 6 years (I.e. Version 1 compared to Version 2) or so ago and come in only a 120 SC1 or SC2 front and 180/55 or 190/55 in the SC2 only. They are priced less than the V2s but they are not old product that was sitting on the shelf but an option for a trackday rider or entry level race guy. We wanted riders to have race options

Diablo Supercorsa V2 DOT SP tires
These are available for everything from a 600 to a 1299 and the rears are bi-compound. They are a great option for trackdays ​

Diablo Rosso Corsa DOT tires

These are available for everything from a 600 to a 1299 and the rears are bi-compound. They are also a great option for trackdays but slower than the SPs but last a long time.
Diablo Rosso II or Rosso III DOT tires
These are available for everything from a 300 to a 1299 and the rears are bi-compound. The new Rosso IIIs feature a mutli compound front and updated rear but they may not be available yet. And don't discount them as not good because in many countries/series the small bore bikes like the KTM390 or CBR500, etc.

That how it works
Jeff
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There’s a secret handshake. Your Visa and the vendors card machine.

 

Cash is king

 

My wife would probably prefer that my debit card required a secret handshake to work.

 

Just tell her about how bulk orders get discounts!

 

Sounds like my wife telling me how much money she saved us while out shopping. She starts talking about this coupon and that 20% off on top of the other 30% off, etc., etc.

 

Bock got me squared away. Was good to double check my compound choice against his recommendation.

Still easier on RTS as I played a bit of phone tag.

 

My wife does the same thing with her online purchasing. It's amazing how she can wear the fashionable and current outfits she does but she has never paid full price for anything.

 

Sounds like you are just a Hugh Dunlop lover!!!!

My first experience in trying to buy tires from brubaker, to help sponsor a rider, didn't go as smoothly as yours.

Hopefully you like the tires.

 

I want to hear the convo about "Hey honey I just spent $46,000 on a mini black dress and shoes but didn't have any cash to tip the valets so I gave them our AMEX black which they are using to get 7 local motorcycle racers on the MA grid!

 

They all work faster than I do. I love the Dunlop front but the Pirelli rear is sublime. Just have to get used to the foldover squat. I am running SC2 front for the stability and am happy with it.

 

Not sure if things changed with the new tires, but I remember Cory from CT Racing telling Tyler, once you feel the squirm or squat, you can hammer it.

 

It's common for a rider to think I'll go faster on the softer tire but's it not the case with Pirelli in every instance. The grip and performance of the SBK front SC1 and SC2 are very similar. The big difference is that the SC2 has a firmer feel because of the stiffness of the compound. And we know a SC2 front are as fast or faster than a SC1 because the guy in leathers to the left uses a SC2 probably 70% of the time and has for years.

Then we introduced a SC3 front a few years ago and guess what? It has more durability than the SC2 front BUT it doesn't really have a harder feel. Again this is because of the properties of said compound. So you have to have an open mind and not make assumptions based on what you think should happen, you need to try each and come to a conclusion based facts.

Most of the fast guys are going to run a Pirelli front from about 36 up to maybe 39 hot. If you are feeling fold over squat and your running at a Cory West or Stefano Mesa pace then you may have the psi too low or the gauge is off. If you aren't running this pace I would check the gauge, check the psi, and check the front end because you may be hitting the bump stop.

Happy Easter to all

 

So for a midpack guy you recommend SC2 front and SC1 rear in the DOT Pirellis?

 

Jeff will provide a fancier answer based on track, conditions, pressures, barometric pressure, etc. - but yes.