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I need a new handgun...lets talk guns today. :D

Discussion in 'General' started by Kris87, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. IrocRob

    IrocRob Well-Known Member

    gun.deals - search for what you want - scroll down for the live inventory search - click a link

    You might want to actually call to verify inventory on the latest popular items.

    I try to avoid looking because it's just too easy to say "I need that!"
     
  2. gapman789

    gapman789 Well-Known Member

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  3. Steak Travis

    Steak Travis Well-Known Member

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  4. rogers1323

    rogers1323 Well-Known Member

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  5. redtailracing

    redtailracing gone tuna fishin'

    How much will you actually shoot this future AR? And what type of shooting do you think you’ll gravitate towards with it?

    radical, delton, and bear creek are cheap garbage. Don’t waste your money.

    ruger, s&w, and psa are only marginally better.

    I honestly don’t know what to think about Colt anymore.

    aero is probably the cheapest I’d go. But for that money, you can get an FN, which would be my personal suggestion.

    I personally detest sig but recognize I’m also in the minority so I guess you’d probably be fine with one of those.

    if you can stretch your budget just a hair, BCM run incredible deals somewhat regularly and they’ll outperform everything else here for only a couple hundred more (last time I checked). Also, once you get into the nicer stuff like that ($1k+), don’t be afraid of blem deals. It’s always cosmetic as worst, often something you may not even notice if you didn’t go looking for it, and sometimes it’s as simple as damaged packaging.

    If you’re only going to plink at steel at 200 yards and in for a few hundred rounds per year or hunt occasionally with it, something like a psa is probably fine. If your round count will be measured in the thousands annually, you’re worried about group sizes, will be shooting at longer distance, or running competitions, don’t go cheaper than an FN. You’ll just end up realizing the money you saved wasn’t worth effectively wasting what you did spend when it doesn’t perform up to expectations.
     
  6. gapman789

    gapman789 Well-Known Member

    It would just be for occasional shooting targets less than 150 yds type of activity. No competition. No hunting. A 'just to have it' type of gun. Hence why i think a 'budget' AR would do just fine for me.
     
  7. redtailracing

    redtailracing gone tuna fishin'

    Then yea I’d probably go with that PSA. Or an FN is you can swing the few extra bucks
     
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  8. lizard84

    lizard84 My “fuck it” list is lengthy

    Just tuned in and read your position AR quality, do you have an opinion on F4 Defense?

    They have a small frame light weight AR 10 that I’m curious about.
     
  9. GixxerJohn011

    GixxerJohn011 Well-Known Member

    Do BCM’s actually exist in the wild? I want a BCM upper but they are proving to be harder to find than unicorn farts. I’ve been looking pretty much daily and I’ve signed up for every alert I can get. Radio silence for about 3 weeks. Anybody got a line on a 10.5”-12” 5.56 MLOK BCM upper? Bonus points if it’s anything but all black.
     
  10. motorkas

    motorkas Well-Known Member

    Cant give an opinion on the Tavor, but can give an opinion on the Bren 2:

    Caveat....NOT a fan of DI guns....I only have one....all my other 556's are pistons (including the Bren 2).

    To the Bren 2....trigger is good, not match grade but doesnt matter because you can run that shit real fast....part of the reason is it doesnt move....just stays on target. You'll get good hits at 100 yrd with just a red dot...defensive distances, just point and drop the mag none/very little rise...takes Pmags....light, adjustable gas system.

    Carbine, just throw an optic on it (already comes with a suppressor gas porting as one of it's three settings)....11 and 14 inches, HBI hand guard, HBI G36 folding stock, and HBI gas block porting for suppressor setting....about that last part....NO GAS FACE....I took the two below to an indoor range, both suppressed. The AR has a Rifle Speed adjustable gas block (set at 3....it will not cycle with a can off of it at that setting).....went through 30 rounds double tapping the first 10 - 15, dumping the rest....got through the whole mag on the Bren 2 with zero discomfort....by round 5 on the AR was already getting gassed out....didnt even bother dumping the rest of the mag). The HBI stock helped alot because it sealed up the back end with it's end plate.

    Great gun....highly recommended.

    Oh, and it folds.

    Size scale of the 11 inch Bren vs a 16 AR.

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    Turbo K on the AR/ Nomad 30 w E-brake on the Bren

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    Cans switched.

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    No cans

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    self explanatory....

    Bren is not in the safe....AR is in the safe.
     
  11. gapman789

    gapman789 Well-Known Member

    Edumacate me on the difference between these 2....Only difference I can see is the FN has 9310 steel bolt and the PSA has 8620? So I assume 9310 is better than 8620? But not $400 better of course.

    I can definitely 'swing' more $, but do I really need to is the dilemna. $400 will buy ammo,and/or a sling, an optic, more mags....etc.

    https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...ht-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle-w-mbus-sight-set3.html

    https://fnamerica.com/products/fn-15-series/fn-15-guardian/
     
  12. GixxerJohn011

    GixxerJohn011 Well-Known Member

    Honest and likely unpopular opinion, for 99% of shooters anything above a PSA is just weiner measuring and hoping your friends will ooh and ah when you take it out at the range. The upper I sold was PSA. I probably put 1,500 rounds through it and a mess of 22 with a conversion. It went bang when I pulled the trigger EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Even the cheap mil-spec shorty 10.5” barrel was plenty accurate out to 200 yards. As was stated earlier you’d have to be really worried about groups at 300 plus yards or shooting THOUSANDS of rounds per year. Get the PSA and buy as much ammo as you can find then shoot it until it breaks and replace the weakest link. PSA is a great entry point to find out what you do and don’t like.

    All that said my weiner is small and my dumbass is probabl gonna buy a DD upper if I can’t find a BCM in the next week. Then I’m sure in a year or two I will repeat the process again.
     
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  13. brex

    brex Well-Known Member

    First sentence is what sites like arfcom are all about. Milspec is milspec. Everything else is dick measuring and whatever is the "cool" barbie brand of the month for various small parts that make zero difference.

    The AR is all about personal preference on the farkles, nothing more.
     
  14. brex

    brex Well-Known Member

    And I second the gas gun opinion. My piston builds and XCR are far more enjoyable to shoot, I only kept a single milspec gas rifle just to have a basic one around.
     
  15. Spang308

    Spang308 Well-Known Member

    This. 100% this.
     
  16. RonR

    RonR Well-Known Member

    I have a PSA I made FA. If it breaks I’ll post what gave up but for now it runs perfect. Honestly not a ton of rounds though it but 90%+ were FA and thats a lot of punishment.
    I have seen just about every brand have a failure.
    I have also never shot a factory AR and felt it couldn’t use a little work. So buying an economical AR and building it to your dream rig over time can be a better rifle and less expensive than buying the flavor of the day.
    Much like hot rodding enhancing exactly to your specs.
     
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  17. Resident Plarp

    Resident Plarp drittsekkmanufacturing.com

    The Hi-Point YC9 Yeet Cannon 100-round review.

    It's the review you already knew you didn't need to read ...

    I've read, and have been told, that Hi-Points are the #1 pistol found at, or near, crime scenes. I always thought it odd that bad guys were leaving one as evidence after a one-eight-seven (my old race number, thanks @Mongo !). Why wouldn't you just throw it in a river for some magnet fisherman to find, or better yet, in a garbage can near a school for the secret cervix to retrieve on your behalf?!!

    Anyway, now I know why! It's because the dood who ends up at room temperature was the one with a Hi-Point, and he was up against a Glock, S&W, or other quality weapon. This gun jams a lot, but in a way I'd never experienced before. It can spin the cartridge 180 degrees before going into battery. Or it just doesn't pick up the next round (most common problem), or stovepipes an unfired cartridge.

    Ergonomically speaking, the gun is top-heavy, but the grip shape works well to atone for that. There's a magazine safety, so you can't shoot without a magazine in battery. There is a slide lock latch, but it's not the easiest to manipulate, so holding it open to clear a jam takes some effort to get right.

    Shooting it silenced, because I refuse to do it any other way nowadays, in terms of blowback, is worse than a direct-impingement rifle. The fixed barrel blows soot and unburnt powder straight back at the user in, what I can only guess would be, porn-esque finishing quantities. Strangely enough, it was easier to ring steel at 20 yards from the hip, sideways, than carefully aiming using my best Weaver stance.

    Worst of all, it's made in Ohio. So, what's good about this gun? The name, of course - and the trigger, actually. While the pull is slightly heavy, the break is clean and consistent. Really, it's awesome. And if you're one to shoot holding the gun sideways, it points really well in this manner. And it throws empty casings about a mile away.

    On account of all this, I'm not going to clean this gun, ever. Actually, it's because you have to knock a roll pin out while holding the slide back, awkwardly, to strip the gun, so fuck that noise. And for the ATF nights at my house (that's alcohol, tobacco and fun), it'll be the gun for the guy that shows up without anything fun.

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  18. GixxerJohn011

    GixxerJohn011 Well-Known Member

    :crackup:Solid review but I thought the known best use of a Yeet Cannon was once it jammed to “Yeet” it at said bad guy. I didn’t know they were supposed send a projectile at them???

    Edit: did you buy it or win it? I’m just wondering why you didn’t get the $100 bill wrapped version?
     
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  19. gapman789

    gapman789 Well-Known Member

    So what's the dealio on buying suppressors? I'm seeing a private seller that is an FFL on Armslist selling several types of suppressors....I read that it could take 8 mos to get 'approved' for a suppressor or some chit? If an FFL is selling suppressors that they have in stock, is there a wait for paperwork on that?
     
  20. StaccatoFan

    StaccatoFan My 13 year old is faster than your President

    National Firearms Act will guide you to the why on all that. You have to pay a $200 tax, get a stamp, and wait for a Government Agency to process your applicaition...that last item is what takes the months and months to get.
     

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