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Is/was MM93 bad for the sport?

Discussion in 'General' started by SPL170db, Oct 26, 2020.

  1. SuddenBraking

    SuddenBraking The Iron Price

    This is the point.

    See point above, and IMO a boring sport is a suffering sport. Ergo, Marquez is bad for the sport.

    See point(s) above.
     
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  2. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Unless one happens to like the diminutive Spaniard.
     
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  3. Motofun352

    Motofun352 Well-Known Member

    The importance of front row starts and launch control is what I think ruins racing. Get out in front by the second turn and then just control the gap....boring. I think they should go back to Lemans starts. Bump start those beasts, no little girly boys gonna do that. Get off the line a little late? Tough titties....go catch up. One of my favorite races was when Steady Eddie couldn't get his bike started, gave up something like 15 seconds then proceeded to run to the front. You know he had to be steaming in his helmet but he still managed to get it done.
     
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  4. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Exactly.....fuck rider safety, it's all about the show.
     
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  5. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Yeah, tell that to anyone named Alex.
     
  6. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    The tired "saftey" argument. Racing isn't safe. Never has been. Never will be. It can however be made terribly boring to watch in the name of safety.
     
  7. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Leather "helmets" and goggles for all!
     
  8. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    Just pointing out that "entertaining" and "safe" interact in a way that isn't normal. No one tunes in to see a everyone stay 1 foot away from each other and never run off course. They tune in to see what could possibly go wrong. They aren't necessarily hoping anyone gets injured or dies but they are there to see the moments that make their butt pucker. You remove those and the "show" gets really boring to watch.
     
  9. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    And carbs, bring back carbs !
     
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  10. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Push starts were in their final years when my interested GP racing started. That did nothing for me. To each their own, I guess. But the same result can be achieved by running off in turn one and having to catch up.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2020
  11. Past Glory

    Past Glory I still have several AVON calendars from the 90's

    In the same way that Ricky Carmichael was bad for M/X when he threw down two undefeated seasons in the midst of his domination?
    In the same was Jeremy McGrath was bad for S/X with his domination?

    These rare glimpses of pure greatness are a joy to behold, enjoy it.
     
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  12. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Hey, man: respect the carbs! :mad:
     
  13. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    By all means, Lemans starts for everyone. No racing is not safe, but there is no need to make it more needlessly dangerous. Front row starts and launch control have nothing to do with trying to win.:rolleyes:
     
  14. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    I do !! Carbs and ethanol gas are a big part of my work in the shop. Carbs = $ :)
     
  15. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    Well then break out the pace cars and competition cautions. Rolling starts are supposedly "safer". No need for that pesky launch control....
     
  16. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

     
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  17. swissrcr

    swissrcr Member

    1965.All i wanted for my 10th birthday was a cromwell leather strap helmet in Agostini scheme.My mother has hated me ever since.LOL
     
  18. Venom51

    Venom51 John Deere Equipment Expert - Not really

    Yeah...that looked incredibly safe. Can't imagine the chaos that making them start the car before pulling off would create.
     
  19. Dan Dubeau

    Dan Dubeau Well-Known Member

    Tight and unpredictable racing is no doubt the best, but I absolutely love seeing someone dominate and break records. We're in the middle of a once in every few decades kind of talent passing the torch to another and guys are complaining it sucks. I look forward to telling my grandkids that I remember watching when Marquez took it to Rossi and them saying, "I can't believe you got to watch them on the same track at the same time" And I'll say, "yeah, but everybody at the time was too busy saying the racing sucked and neither was as good as Ago" :D

    It's like the Tiger era of golf. I loved watching him lay waste to the courses and competitors back then. Guys like that move the bar up a couple notches and further refine their sports as a whole. We all benefit from that when everybody else has to rise up to beat them.
     
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  20. Badger911GT3

    Badger911GT3 Well-Known Member

    The championship battle has been more exciting this year.

    But I wouldn't say that individual races have been more exciting. Motogp has been fantastic the last 3-4 years. It's rare for a rider to win from pole, extending their early lead by .5 seconds each lap until they win by 10 seconds. That kind of thing used to happen frequently, with Lorenzo, Stoner, Pedrosa. But even when Marquez wins a race, it often is exciting because it involves him battling through the last lap.
     

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