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No-mar tire changer

Discussion in 'General' started by Phl218, Jan 16, 2015.

  1. gixxerboy55

    gixxerboy55 Well-Known Member

    Pirelli are Easy, dismounting a Dunlop now that's a different story.
     
  2. TLR67

    TLR67 Well-Known Member

    Fixed....lol
     
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  3. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    Try doing the HD branded Dunlops or the Dunlop American Elites ! They are just like a 10 ply truck tire, I don't know WTF their thinking is with making them so stiff. I've gotten to where I won't do them anymore. Get calls from guys that buy them online and want me to change them all the time. Nope, not worth it.
     
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  4. gapman789

    gapman789 Well-Known Member

    Good to know since i have a '13 NRS.....still have the original Dunlop with 4000 miles on it. But i also have a pneumatic.
     
  5. tl1098

    tl1098 Well-Known Member

    Bead in the drop center is the key! if not ,this is the result.
     
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  6. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    Heavy bike
    That carries heavy loads
    With fat riders and wives
    Equals a tire with a high load capacity and thick sidewalls
     
  7. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    But, they’re worse than the equivalent Elites, in Gold Wing sizes. Does that mean Wingers aren’t fat people, too? :p
     
  8. Pneumatico Delle Vittorie

    Pneumatico Delle Vittorie Retired "Tire" Guy

    Each OE has in house tire and wheel engineers and they chose the tire design specs. Replacement tires in many instances can be much different.
     
  9. Banditracer

    Banditracer Dogs - because people suck

    Well I guess I understand their thinking but it seems unnecessary. I've convinced alot of my Harley riding customers to try the Michelin Commander 2's, they've all liked them better than the Dunlops and so far nobody's died from a sidewall failure.
     
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  10. gixxerboy55

    gixxerboy55 Well-Known Member

    Even their dirt bike tires are a pain
     
  11. JCW

    JCW Well-Known Member

    I've done a couple SUV snow tires. Yeah, it was hard but doable. But don't think it's worth it.. Sport bike tires are a piece of cake if you warm them up with a hair dryer.
     
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  12. lopitt85

    lopitt85 Well-Known Member

    Like someone else, I picked up the Harbor freight setup, and with a few upgrades it has worked flawlessly. I bought the No-mar bar and their lube.

    1. I had the white inserts made from 3/4" HDPE, the material they make cutting boards from. I dropped off the measurements at a company that makes HDPE products and had them make 6 for me. 3 to use and 3 spares. It's been 3 years now and I still haven't needed to replace one. Drilled a hole and secured them in their slots with pins.

    2. I replaced the center bar that goes through the axles with a simple piece of rod stock.

    3. I used a piece of the same rod stock as wheel stop. Just drilled a hole in one of the arms of the tire changer, and it stops the wheel from rotating while changing tires. Its wrapped in black gorilla tape so it doesn't mar the wheel.

    4. I drilled a hole through the main stem and placed a removable pin in there to stop the MC adapter from twisting on the base. The other hole you see just above the pin is for my mount that I made for my truck hitch setup.

    5. I rigged up the little bungee return to lift the bead breaker and hold it out of the way. I coated the end of the bead breaker in duct tape as well as the leg on that side so it doesn't scratch the wheels. Thought about making a plastic coating for it, but its held up fine for a few years, and I'll just replace it with some fresh layers when its time.

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  13. TurboBlew

    TurboBlew Registers Abusers

    The pro model no mar?? Can definitely do car/truck/trailer sized. Even the junior sized one works well for 16s & 17s.
    I probably wouldn't do anything with a <50 aspect ratio & >19" in diameter unless you're a glutton for punishment. Not to mention you'd definitely need a bead cheater of sorts if you didnt want to be daring with carb cleaner & a long lighter.
    I have done a few 240 & 300 mm sportbike tires. They can be gravy... those 30" rubber band cruiser tires. No way no how.
     
  14. gixxerboy55

    gixxerboy55 Well-Known Member

    Great job on the HF, I have done the inserts,now I going to do the bar through the arm, thanks.
     
  15. tpadden

    tpadden Well-Known Member

    I use tire warmers on the stiffer tires before removing/mounting, makes it much easier. If it’s hot out just stick them in the sun for a bit. It’s 90% technique though the first few times I was exhausting myself and cursing up a storm. If it’s taking a lot of effort your technique is wrong.... go back and watch some videos.
     
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  16. lopitt85

    lopitt85 Well-Known Member

    Thanks. What did you use for your inserts? Originally I wanted to use Nylon but it was much more expensive than the HDPE.
     
  17. gixxerboy55

    gixxerboy55 Well-Known Member

    I bought them online, similar to yours, same material,put inner tube rubber so they grip. Bought the nomar tip they come in a pack of three, bought some tubing and made the bar.
     
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  18. lopitt85

    lopitt85 Well-Known Member

    You know, I always thought mass producing those inserts and selling them might make sense. Theres enough of these changers being bought to have some decent sales I think
     
  19. gixxerboy55

    gixxerboy55 Well-Known Member

    Yeah a lot of cottage industries have sprung up, because of the internet, it's great.
     
  20. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    @lopitt85
    Thanks for posting the pic of the Delrin(?) jaws. You've given me inspiration for the solution to my Coats 220's steel jaws. If any tire changer ever needed plastic jaws...

    Yeah, I've scraped a couple wheels before. :rolleyes:
     
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