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MotoGP Qatar Test 2020

Discussion in 'General' started by NemesisR6, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. dieterly

    dieterly Well-Known Member

    No, crashes besides one yesterday. Today they grabbed one of Nakagami’s bikes.
     
  2. CB186

    CB186 go f@ck yourself

    I think the rest of the Honder riders may be in more trouble than anything, because none of them could ride the 2019 bike and might have hoping for a friendlier package for 2020. MM will be fine on the old bike if need be.
     
  3. NemesisR6

    NemesisR6 Gristle McThornbody

    Day 2 lap analysis def doesn't bode well for the HRC men......


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  4. Shocker

    Shocker Well-Known Member

    The Yamaha boys are looking good, but I don't know how much I can trust these times as the temps will be different during the actual race.

    Dovi was no where to be found during the 2019 Qatar test and he won the race 2 weeks later. Vinales won the test, but finished 7th in the race...
     
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  5. sharky nrk

    sharky nrk Rubber Side Up

    I think the fact the Yamahas and the Suzukis have been consistently on top at both tests in both race pace and single lap shows there is real speed there. In by-yourself-pace I think HRC and Ducati are actually in trouble, and HRC is in trouble period. But what is to be seen yet is how the race shakes out, can the v4s get in and mess with the i4s and disrupt that pace? At Qatar I am not so sure because of the wide flowing nature of the track.
     
  6. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Marc says "Deh bike is caca."
     
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  7. jd41

    jd41 Well-Known Member

  8. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    It's all lies. The HRC Honda is always the best bike in the field. The bike everyone should want to be on. Every year. It rides itself to victory. Anyone who can't win at least a couple of races from it is an abject failure.
     
  9. pscook

    pscook Well-Known Member

    The chart above is "Average" fastest laps, which can be considered a "what if" for racing. It doesn't show consecutive pace or race simulations, which will highlight those with better tire management. Also, remember Jeremy McWilliams on pole with the Proton at Phillips Island in 2002? He finished 10th in the race. Fast alone is different than fast in the group (as Lorenzo so professionally showed during his Yamaha years of getting in front to win).

    So, yes, the Suzuki and Yamaha are killers at fast laps. But until they can manage a tire for a race in a group the results remain to be seen...

    But you all knew this already.
     
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  10. NemesisR6

    NemesisR6 Gristle McThornbody

    Final combined times across all three days:

    Pos No Rider Bike Time Diff Prev
    1 12 Maverick Viñales Yamaha M1 1:53.858
    2 21 Franco Morbidelli Yamaha M1 1:53.891 0.033 0.033
    3 20 Fabio Quartararo Yamaha M1 1:54.038 0.180 0.147
    4 42 Alex Rins Suzuki GSX-RR 1:54.068 0.210 0.030
    5 43 Jack Miller Ducati GP20 1:54.105 0.247 0.037
    6 36 Joan Mir Suzuki GSX-RR 1:54.129 0.271 0.024
    7 93 Marc Márquez Honda RC213V 1:54.149 0.291 0.020
    8 30 Takaaki Nakagami Honda RC213V 1:54.239 0.381 0.090
    9 33 Brad Binder KTM RC16 1:54.283 0.425 0.044
    10 4 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati GP20 1:54.312 0.454 0.029
    11 63 Francesco Bagnaia Ducati GP20 1:54.326 0.468 0.014
    12 46 Valentino Rossi Yamaha M1 1:54.332 0.474 0.006
    13 41 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia RS-GP 1:54.432 0.574 0.100
    14 5 Johann Zarco Ducati GP19 1:54.565 0.707 0.133
    15 44 Pol Espargaro KTM RC16 1:54.623 0.765 0.058
    16 9 Danilo Petrucci Ducati GP20 1:54.634 0.776 0.011
    17 53 Tito Rabat Ducati GP19 1:54.674 0.816 0.040
    18 35 Cal Crutchlow Honda RC213V 1:54.830 0.972 0.156
    19 88 Miguel Oliveira KTM RC16 1:55.008 1.150 0.178
    20 27 Iker Lecuona KTM RC16 1:55.301 1.443 0.293
    21 73 Alex Márquez Honda RC213V 1:55.519 1.661 0.218
    22 38 Bradley Smith Aprilia RS-GP 1:55.916 2.058 0.397
     
  11. scottn

    scottn Well-Known Member

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  12. NemesisR6

    NemesisR6 Gristle McThornbody

    For comparisons sake, here are the combined times from a year ago:

    Pos No Rider Bike Time Diff Prev
    1 12 Maverick Viñales Yamaha M1 1:54.208
    2 20 Fabio Quartararo Yamaha M1 1:54.441 0.233 0.233
    3 42 Alex Rins Suzuki GSX-RR 1:54.593 0.385 0.152
    4 93 Marc Marquez Honda RC213V 1:54.613 0.405 0.020
    5 46 Valentino Rossi Yamaha M1 1:54.651 0.443 0.038
    6 99 Jorge Lorenzo Honda RC213V 1:54.653 0.445 0.002
    7 21 Franco Morbidelli Yamaha M1 1:54.660 0.452 0.007
    8 44 Pol Espargaro KTM RC16 1:54.770 0.562 0.110
    9 30 Takaaki Nakagami Honda RC213V 1:54.789 0.581 0.019
    10 9 Danilo Petrucci Ducati GP19 1:54.818 0.610 0.029
    11 43 Jack Miller Ducati GP19 1:54.851 0.643 0.033
    12 36 Joan Mir Suzuki GSX-RR 1:54.997 0.789 0.146
    13 63 Francesco Bagnaia Ducati GP18 1:55.074 0.866 0.077
    14 41 Aleix Espargaro Aprilia RS-GP 1:55.173 0.965 0.099
    15 4 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati GP19 1:55.205 0.997 0.032
    16 53 Tito Rabat Ducati GP18 1:55.229 1.021 0.024
    17 35 Cal Crutchlow Honda RC213V 1:55.247 1.039 0.018
    18 29 Andrea Iannone Aprilia RS-GP 1:55.343 1.135 0.096
    19 5 Johann Zarco KTM RC16 1:55.716 1.508 0.373
    20 88 Miguel Oliveira KTM RC16 1:55.773 1.565 0.057
    21 17 Karel Abraham Ducati GP18 1:55.951 1.743 0.178
    22 38 Bradley Smith Aprilia RS-GP 1:56.072 1.864 0.121
    23 55 Hafizh Syahrin KTM RC16 1:56.371 2.163 0.299


    I really don't think anything above is going to truly going to upset the apple cart.

    MM is still going to be the clear favorite, the Yamahas/Rins/Ducati may occasionally threaten, but in the end I still don't see anybody truly challenging him over a full season where he is a consistent podium finisher. The rest of these guys will have minor flashes of brilliance, but barring anything with his shoulder putting a significant damper on his physical condition, MM gonna bring it home yet again.
     
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  13. Motofun352

    Motofun352 Well-Known Member

    first 17 riders within 1 second....looks like a good mix.
     
  14. rd49

    rd49 Well-Known Member

    So in 2019 MM93 was .405 behind best time and this year he is .291 behind. Yep he is definitely in trouble. :D
     
  15. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    That little twat is done. Put a fork in it. Season's over. Its going to be either Rossi or Quarteroo.
     
  16. scottn

    scottn Well-Known Member

    Heh heh, combined times Yamaha 1, 2, 3, and ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................12 :D
     
  17. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    Whatever. We all know Rossi is a Sunday man.
     
  18. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    How did he do yesterday?
     
  19. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    GFY!!!
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2020
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  20. gixxernaut

    gixxernaut Hold my beer & watch this

    Which brings up an interesting philosophical quandary. If there's no racing going on is it really Sunday?
     
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