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2020 Honda Fireblade | CBR1000RRRRRR

Discussion in 'General' started by Steeltoe, Sep 19, 2019.

  1. :crackup:

    Well played. :D
     
  2. cav115

    cav115 Well-Known Member


    True.

    Like the R1, the mechanical grip is a big factor in getting power to the ground, and allowing the electronics to work more efficiently.
     
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  3. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    Screamers wouldn't stand a chance if that was true.
     
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  4. cav115

    cav115 Well-Known Member


    Yep, din`t say it made them superior to screamers in every aspect, just that one.

    Lots of factors decide who wins a race. :D
     
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  5. nlzmo400r

    nlzmo400r Well-Known Member

    Engine firing order has absolutely has an impression on rear tire grip. There are many factors obviously, but firing order is one.


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  6. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    All I care about is how a bike sounds, because all of them are faster than me. Right now, the CP4 does it for me.
     
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  7. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    99 % of the people on here fall into that category. It tickles me when folks break down every new bike as if they're gonna go smash track records with it lol. Dial it back a notch :D
     
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  8. Razr

    Razr Well-Known Member

    You know every person on here is faster than Jorge Lorenzo!
     
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  9. prospected

    prospected Well-Known Member

    Firing order to an extent has been negated by neutered electronics rules in WSBK. The days of individual injectors firing only 1-2 cylinders to obtain mechanical grip are gone for the time being unless it can be done on the cheap. This has essentially cancelled out the crossplane & V4's advantage in WSBK.
     
  10. Black89

    Black89 Well-Known Member

    I thought it was when they made individual throttle body opening illegal it fucked it up for everyone. They use to only open the inner two throttle bodies along with fuel and spark cuts coming out of the coners to limit power instead of doing it with spark and fuel only.
     
  11. nlzmo400r

    nlzmo400r Well-Known Member

    I think you mean exactly the opposite. Being able to alter which cylinders were making power electronically meant there was no need for changing the crank pin locations (like the M1 did back in 2004).


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  12. Huh?

    The cancelling out of things like split throttle bodies and lessened electronics has made the "natural" (meaning OEM) firing order/mechanical grip of the engine even more important.
     
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  13. Potts N Pans

    Potts N Pans Well-Known Member

    It is easy to beat a retired guy. :D
     
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  14. prospected

    prospected Well-Known Member

    Yes, poor wording on my part.
     
  15. prospected

    prospected Well-Known Member

    I don't think they've dipped back to archaic electronics for the engine's architecture to matter. If the motor made that much of a difference then perhaps Yamaha and Ducati would've faired better against the Kawi. Other than a top end hit by the Duc's extra revs they were all pretty close.
     
  16. racesbikes

    racesbikes WTB a Size 50/60 Race Suit

    I typically buy bikes based on the color.

    It’s my money, I’m not concerned about what others think.

    LOL
     
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  17. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    This bike looks stellar, especially under the show lights. I’d love to have one parked next to an ‘85 VF1000R.
     
  18. racesbikes

    racesbikes WTB a Size 50/60 Race Suit

    Imagine how good it will look sitting in our garages collecting dust?
     
  19. ducnut

    ducnut Well-Known Member

    Nah. I rotate through and ride my junk.
     
  20. 418

    418 Expert #59

    There's no such a thing as "mechanical grip" in motorcycles people.

    The term comes from auto racing where there is aero grip and mechanical grip.

    Stop it already.
     

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