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The Official 2020 Silly Season Thread

Discussion in 'General' started by The Great One, Jul 1, 2019.

  1. fastedyamaha

    fastedyamaha Well-Known Member

    your new avatar will have a capital “H”? :D
     
  2. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Didn't he win one first, move up to 500s, and back down for second one?

    You say that like it's a bad thing. He went to a team with massive financial backing and arguably the most rookie-friendly MotoGP bike.
     
  3. Shocker

    Shocker Well-Known Member

    Loris won 2 straight 125cc titles, went up to 250s and came close a couple times. Went up to 500s and then bumped down to 250s where he finally won the 250 title.
     
  4. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    Has there ever been a scenario where one brother inadvertently took out their sibling in a race? lol
     
  5. The Great One

    The Great One Well-Known Member

    My gripe with AM isn't only that it took him 5 years to get the title, but 5 years in the best team in the paddock. If his last name wasn't Marquez, he would've been shown the door after his first contract and wouldn't have even been a consideration for a Repsol Honda ride in 2020.
     
  6. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    OK, thanks. For some reason I remembered one of each before moving up, instead of two 125 titles.
     
  7. cpettit

    cpettit Well-Known Member

    Team tit baby/mommas boy 2020. Wonder if their daddy will stop on the way home from practice so they can all get an ice cream together?
     
  8. fastedyamaha

    fastedyamaha Well-Known Member

    i don’t think he won any races his first 2 years in the class either.
     
  9. tzrider

    tzrider CZrider

    No argument there. Alex, by being M2 Champion deserved a bump up to MotoGP, more so than Fabio ever did.

    Much like Fabio, Alex is benefiting from the timing where there are more seats than eligible riders...

    If the situation had been normal, he might have ended up where he rightly wanted: Aprilia! :D
     
  10. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    If his name wasn't Marquez, no one would be giving in shit for having won "only" one Moto 3 and one Moto 2 championships at the age of 23.

    Marc Van der Stratten is under no pressure to show results to anyone or lose his job. He can afford to be patient and loyal to his racers.
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2019
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  11. wac

    wac Well-Known Member

    With the results this year and #6hrc titles he can ask for a ride for the girlfriend and he will get it
     
  12. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    Tom Luthi has been in the class since its inception in 2010 (minus a 1 year hiatus to ride MotoGP in 2018) and he still hasn't won a title. Came in runner up several times in the championship, but he's still at it.

    Domi Aegerter's another whose been in Moto2 since the beginning and also hasn't ever been higher than 5th in the championship
     
  13. fastedyamaha

    fastedyamaha Well-Known Member

    valid points counselor but how many were promoted to the most prestigious team in the big league?
     
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  14. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Seems a lot of guys can't get past their emotions to analyze what actually happened here:

    Dorna has a commitment to provide an opportunity to each Moto 2 champion to move up. The class has no credibility if it's not a stepping stone to MotoGP.

    No way Alex Márquez is going to Avintia, the place where Moto 2 and SBK racers go kill their chances of ever getting a decent MotoGP ride. So for him, it either Repsol or LCR.

    Lucio Cecchinello is not going to give up a proven podium contender for a rookie when his other rider hasn't shown yet that he can step up to that role. So for him, it's either Crutchlow or Zarco.
     
  15. masshole

    masshole sixoneseven

    I thought that Crutchlow will retire after this season but looks like he has one more in him.
     
  16. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    Exactly. Being Moto2 champ means something. The other 25-whatever guys in the field didn't do it this year.

    Probably the top 10 finishers in Moto2 all have the raw speed to be within a second of pole time in MotoGP, potentially. When someone is hired for a seat, there's more involved than just their speed, which most of them have proven. The rider is a package deal, and along comes sponsors, moms, dads, brothers, paddock relationships, etc. I think Alex deserves that seat.

    Zarco has proven himself to be a quitter and has let down the family that put so much effort into his bike. IMHO, he really should be back in Moto2 to pre-prove his commitment.
     
  17. MVA25

    MVA25 Well-Known Member

  18. The Great One

    The Great One Well-Known Member

    Marc VDS is wealthy but he is not dumb; he's not going to fund his team purely out of pocket.

    Why don't we ask Mika Kallio or Xavi Vierge about how "patient and loyal" Marc VDS is to his racers? Kallio was the runner up in the championship when Marc VDS replaced him with little Marquez. Vierge got one season and that was his only chance.

    When you're riding in a top team in this class, you either produce (Rabat, Morbidelli, Mir) or find another ride (Vierge). Alex Marquez got a pass simply because of his last name. When's the last time another rider retained a top tier ride for five consecutive years in the same team without making it into the Top 3 in the championship? I certainly can't think of anyone besides Alex Marquez.
     
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  19. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner


    Indeed

    I was just saying that AM73 did win the title and took only 1/2 as many years :D
     
  20. Potts N Pans

    Potts N Pans Well-Known Member

    Who cares... 93 will win it next year.
     

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