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The Official 2020 Silly Season Thread

Discussion in 'General' started by The Great One, Jul 1, 2019.

  1. TX Joose

    TX Joose Well-Known Member

    So, what's the price of your happiness?
     
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  2. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Fignon (disgraced TDF) winner died a few years back.
    Zarco was there with Fellon when the contract was signed in December 2017. I just recently got a reliable account of the timeline.
     
  3. The Great One

    The Great One Well-Known Member

    So Zarco was fully aware of what was going on....

    It sounds like he just got too excited about a Factory offer and jumped at the first one that came to him. I'm sure the couple million per year added to that excitement as well.
     
  4. tzrider

    tzrider CZrider

    Honestly, it's all moot. Do we think Zarco would have been any happier on the Honda?...
     
  5. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner

    He would've done better on a Yammie, but I'm not sure if that Petronas seat was available to him.
     
  6. Boman Forklift

    Boman Forklift Well-Known Member

    I'm going off memory, but didn't his results start slipping with Tech3 even when he was still on the Yamaha?
     
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  7. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Yes, when he started playing the factory head games. "The bike is not good enough, I want this, I want that." He was doing better when he was a carefree rookie. Very similar to Quartararo this year.
     
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  8. SPL170db

    SPL170db Trackday winner


    Ehh, not hugely different really....hell, he even managed a podium @ Sepang.

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  9. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Expectations were very different, though. In 2018, he felt that he should be winning races. In 2017, he was performing above his in anyone's expectations.
     
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  10. tzrider

    tzrider CZrider

    He did have a resurgence in the flyaways.

    He finished 3rd in Sepang, was doing well in AUS.

    EDIT: Too late...
     
  11. Bruce

    Bruce Tuck & Roll

    A factory contract lol! But seriously is it really THAT bad? Dude looks like his friends and family need to keep him away from tall bridges. I get that he's not ecstatic about his situation, but the moping around is over the freaking top!
     
  12. SGVRider

    SGVRider Well-Known Member

    Exactly. If he’d kept his head in the game and worked at it like Lorenzo did at Ducati he’d have been fine. Jorge had even more reason to look depressed at Ducati, he worked his ass off for 18 months then started going like stink and making Dovi hella worried. This guy looked like he gave up after 3 races. If this was what he needed for his mental health, then great. No team manager is going to trust him now. He’s an even bigger risk than Folger. Couple that with the fact he’ll be past 30 in 2021 and he’s done. He’s a former world champion, but so is most of the grid.
     
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  13. Phl218

    Phl218 .


    Well, it's a friggin job and the dude threw the towel very early in the game. IMHO it's a character thing.

    lots of people are stuck in crappy situations and pull through. and then experience true happiness, through overcoming hard times.
     
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  14. scottn

    scottn Well-Known Member

  15. Black89

    Black89 Well-Known Member

    Regarding Honda and wsbk translated

    Honda will turn the entire commitment upside down for the Superbike World Cup 2020. Little by little seeps through, as the largest motorcycle manufacturer wants to get back on the road to success. In the 1988 established Superbike World Championship with close-to-production motorcycles won Honda only six times the title: After Fred Merkel in the early two years with John Kocinski in 1997, Colin Edwards in 2000 and 2002 and James Toseland 2007. The last twelve years managed even exceptional performers such as the world champion Carlos Checa and Jonathan Rea no title for Honda, too little competitive was the CBR1000RR Fireblade. As a scapegoat for the years of failure, partner Ten Kate was identified in the fall of 2018, after almost two decades of cooperation, the separation took place. After 17 years absence, the Honda Racing Corporation, responsible for all factory appearances, returned in 2019 in the Superbike World Cup. Because such a team is hard to operate from Japan, HRC teamed with teams Moriwaki and Althea, which handle the logistics, hospitality, maintenance of the motorcycles and large parts of the staff. The motorcycles come directly from HRC and are identical to the machines that are used in the eight-hour race in Suzuka except for regulation-related details. Honda sends Japanese engineers to every Superbike World Championship event, but 2019 is a single disgrace and one of the worst seasons in the company's history: place 8 of reserve driver Yuki Takahashi in the wet race of Misano is the best result. Honda executives emphasized from the outset that 2019 would be a transitional year, gathering data for the future. The reason for the non-existent competitiveness of the end of 2016 introduced, the current Fireblade was the then chosen direction of the chassis development identified. The Suzuka bike was developed with Bridgestones, with the Pirelli tires prescribed in the Superbike World Championship, the bike works much worse. By 2020 everything should be different. Honda brings a new Fireblade, which is expected to be presented at the end of October at the Tokyo Motor Show. HRC managers announced that the new bike will have the "strongest in-line four-cylinder engine" of the current Superbike. For months in Japan with Pirelli tires tested to repeat the mistakes made in the past. During the SBK event this past weekend in Portugal, it was leaked that some of Honda's current Honda team's employment contracts were extended for 2020, others learned that they needed to find new jobs. The current team structure will be completely reorganized. In the future, the Honda factory team will operate from Barcelona and affiliate with the Repsol MotoGP team, whose team manager is Alberto Puig. Puig's company, also responsible for the Honda Asia Talent Cup, will be responsible for the logistics and workshop of the Superbike World Championship team. The factory team will be made up of Alvaro Bautista (34) in 2020 and Takumi Takahashi (29) from the Japanese Superbike Championship. The Spaniard will bring from Ducati his crew chief Giulio Nava, Takahashi gets a Japanese engineer put aside. Bautista drove for Gresini Honda MotoGP from 2012 to 2014 and knows some of the HRC managers and technicians of that time. In his first Superbike World Cup season in 2019 he already conquered 15 victories and is second behind Jonathan Rea (Kawasaki). Ducati says that Honda Bautista will pay twice as much basic salary as the manufacturer from Bologna offered: 800,000 instead of 400,000. The 34-year-old Ducati would have despite salary increase in 2020 clearly earned less than team-mate Chaz Davies - for Bautista in view of his much better performance an unbearable situation. Outwardly, the former 125cc World Champion denies that monetary reasons were the key to his move. He calls instead the additional motivation that will give him the new project. According to Bautista, the deal is officially announced ahead of the final European event in Magny-Cours on the last weekend of September: "Next weekend is in Misano MotoGP, the weekend after that in Aragon. Maybe we will make the official announcement to Aragon. It's better to wait for these two races, then we'll make our big announcement. Otherwise everyone forgets it again because MotoGP is. » Up to five Honda on the grid Althea boss Genesio Bevilacqua confirmed to SPEEDWEEK.com that he will continue with Honda in his private team in 2020. This year, the ceramic industrialist is giving 22-year-old Alessandro Delbianco from Rimini a Fireblade and the rookie has conquered 21 points so far. Whether it goes on with him, is uncertain. So far, it is not clear whether Midori Moriwaki will remain in the Superbike World Championship with her team after HRC reorientated. And if it stays, it is questionable whether the cooperation with Althea will continue. This year's Honda rider Leon Camier, injured by the end of May after his fall in Imola's shoulder, was told last weekend that there is no room for him at Honda in 2020. The situation is different with his unsuccessful team-mate Ryuichi Kiyonari, who scored one point less than the young Delbianco this year: The Japanese have an HRC contract for next season and could be placed with Moriwaki. Worst case next year, we will only see the two factory machines with Bautista and Takahashi. At best, there are five CBR1000RR Fireblade on the grid.
     
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  16. I am not even trying to read that without paragraphs :)
     
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  17. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    I did it on my phone :Poke:

    Regarding Honda and wsbk translated
    Honda will turn the entire commitment upside down for the Superbike

    Cup 2020. Little by little seeps through, as the largest motorcycle manufacturer wants to get back on the road to success.

    In the 1988 established Superbike World Championship with close-to-production motorcycles won Honda only six times the title: After Fred Merkel in the early two years with John Kocinski in 1997, Colin Edwards in 2000 and 2002 and James Toseland 2007. The last twelve years managed even exceptional performers such as the world champion Carlos Checa and Jonathan Rea no title for Honda, too little competitive was the CBR1000RR Fireblade.

    As a scapegoat for the years of failure, partner Ten Kate was identified in the fall of 2018, after almost two decades of cooperation, the separation took place. After 17 years absence, the Honda Racing Corporation, responsible for all factory appearances, returned in 2019 in the Superbike World Cup. Because such a team is hard to operate from Japan, HRC teamed with teams Moriwaki and Althea, which handle the logistics, hospitality, maintenance of the motorcycles and large parts of the staff.

    The motorcycles come directly from HRC and are identical to the machines that are used in the eight-hour race in Suzuka except for regulation-related details. Honda sends Japanese engineers to every Superbike World Championship event, but 2019 is a single disgrace and one of the worst seasons in the company's history: place 8 of reserve driver Yuki Takahashi in the wet race of Misano is the best result.

    Honda executives emphasized from the outset that 2019 would be a transitional year, gathering data for the future. The reason for the non-existent competitiveness of the end of 2016 introduced, the current Fireblade was the then chosen direction of the chassis development identified. The Suzuka bike was developed with Bridgestones, with the Pirelli tires prescribed in the Superbike World Championship, the bike works much worse.

    By 2020 everything should be different. Honda brings a new Fireblade, which is expected to be presented at the end of October at the Tokyo Motor Show. HRC managers announced that the new bike will have the "strongest in-line four-cylinder engine" of the current Superbike. For months in Japan with Pirelli tires tested to repeat the mistakes made in the past.

    During the SBK event this past weekend in Portugal, it was leaked that some of Honda's current Honda team's employment contracts were extended for 2020, others learned that they needed to find new jobs. The current team structure will be completely reorganized. In the future, the Honda factory team will operate from Barcelona and affiliate with the Repsol MotoGP team, whose team manager is Alberto Puig.

    Puig's company, also responsible for the Honda Asia Talent Cup, will be responsible for the logistics and workshop of the Superbike World Championship team. The factory team will be made up of Alvaro Bautista (34) in 2020 and Takumi Takahashi (29) from the Japanese Superbike Championship. The Spaniard will bring from Ducati his crew chief Giulio Nava, Takahashi gets a Japanese engineer put aside. Bautista drove for Gresini Honda MotoGP from 2012 to 2014 and knows some of the HRC managers and technicians of that time. In his first Superbike World Cup season in 2019 he already conquered 15 victories and is second behind Jonathan Rea (Kawasaki).

    Ducati says that Honda Bautista will pay twice as much basic salary as the manufacturer from Bologna offered: 800,000 instead of 400,000. The 34-year-old Ducati would have despite salary increase in 2020 clearly earned less than team-mate Chaz Davies - for Bautista in view of his much better performance an unbearable situation.

    Outwardly, the former 125cc World Champion denies that monetary reasons were the key to his move. He calls instead the additional motivation that will give him the new project. According to Bautista, the deal is officially announced ahead of the final European event in Magny-Cours on the last weekend of September: "Next weekend is in Misano MotoGP, the weekend after that in Aragon. Maybe we will make the official announcement to Aragon. It's better to wait for these two races, then we'll make our big announcement. Otherwise everyone forgets it again because MotoGP is. »

    Up to five Honda on the grid Althea boss Genesio Bevilacqua confirmed to SPEEDWEEK.com that he will continue with Honda in his private team in 2020. This year, the ceramic industrialist is giving 22-year-old Alessandro Delbianco from Rimini a Fireblade and the rookie has conquered 21 points so far. Whether it goes on with him, is uncertain. So far, it is not clear whether Midori Moriwaki will remain in the Superbike World Championship with her team after HRC reorientated. And if it stays, it is questionable whether the cooperation with Althea will continue.

    This year's Honda rider Leon Camier, injured by the end of May after his fall in Imola's shoulder, was told last weekend that there is no room for him at Honda in 2020. The situation is different with his unsuccessful team-mate Ryuichi Kiyonari, who scored one point less than the young Delbianco this year: The Japanese have an HRC contract for next season and could be placed with Moriwaki. Worst case next year, we will only see the two factory machines with Bautista and Takahashi. At best, there are five CBR1000RR Fireblade on the grid.
     
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  18. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Guys at least provide the link when you decide to plagiarize an entire article. :crackup:
     
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  19. SGVRider

    SGVRider Well-Known Member

    Honda is fielding a futbol team to take Japan to the World Cup starting in 2020. The brand new Fireblade will consist of amazing BNG.
     
  20. stk0308

    stk0308 Well-Known Member

    Post # 380 has the original article linked. I knew we had seen that before already.
     

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