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I could go for Yang, but only if...

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by duggram, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    It's my money that I earned, not everyone else's. Explain to me why I am not entitled to the money I earn and dipshit couch jokey who doesn't work is.
     
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  2. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    You're being a yeastaphobe and trying to stir up bread hate.
     
  3. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    I just want gluten free foods to get subsidized like the evil wheat ones do :moon:
     
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  4. speeddaddy

    speeddaddy Well-Known Member

    No matter how you try to dress up socialism it doesn’t work. Always drags majority down to lowest common denominator. Why do we humans keep trying to dabble in it? The evidence is there.
     
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  5. Phanuel

    Phanuel Well-Known Member

    So, the government provides $1,000 a month to over 350 million US citizens (and non-citizens because socialists democrats will expand it to keep their base voting for them).

    Then, they will tax tech companies only to support this. The math doesn't work, but lets pretend it did for even 1 second.

    The tech companies respond by immediately moving operations over seas and dodging taxes easily.

    Now you've got a $350B monthly budget hole you need to plug for the socialist system to continue to function.

    Where does that money now come from?

    The tax base, which you clearly aren't apart of because you think this is at all reasonable in the first place.
     
  6. 88/532

    88/532 Simply Antagonistical

    Another free money guy.:rolleyes: Its never ever free.
     
  7. aaronson

    aaronson Well-Known Member

    What could Yang do with his foreign policy ? Another wait and see like Obama did ? Probably bring us back to the Paris Agreement and the Iran Nuke Deal . No thanks !! . Need someone in the office with brass balls dealing with world leaders, wanting to pick us apart.
     
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  8. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    There are far more people that are willing to take than there are with the drive to create and excel.
     
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  9. Mechdziner714

    Mechdziner714 More Gas Less Brakes

    How does he define a tech company? Sounds pretty vague to me...
     
  10. ryoung57

    ryoung57 Off his meds

    Where the hell did the dems find these people running for president? How do you go from mayor of a medium sized city to presidential candidate? Or losing a congress seat to running for president?
     
  11. R Acree

    R Acree Banned

    Unicorn pee and mermaid scales.
     
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  12. lrrs517

    lrrs517 Internet Investigative Officer

    Print it and send it out in envelopes.
     
  13. duggram

    duggram Sunrise Bahia de LA

    I don't understand. Trump keeps saying we have historic low unemployment rates. You're saying we don't.
    Please go back and read the first part of this thread you've obviously missed a lot. As for me I worked hard after my time in the Army and put together a good retirement and live off of that. I'd bet you haven't done that yet. I don't need a government handout to live a good life.
     
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  14. Montoya

    Montoya Well-Known Member

    No, I'm agreeing that we essentially do have record low unemployment. The concept of universal basic income, is based on the notion that automation, robotics, machine learning, artificial intelligence, etc. will decrease employment to the point that an alternative model will be needed. If we're having record low unemployment, which we are, that means the original purpose of universal basic income isn't applicable.
     
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  15. ahrma_581

    ahrma_581 Well-Known Member

    Keynes on meth.
     
  16. Phanuel

    Phanuel Well-Known Member

    I've missed nothing. You've missed everything.

    Please provide the math, budgeting, and allowance for corporate nature (i.e. tax shelters that they all employ) that will allow this "glorious" future to happen? The tech industry isn't oil, it's not physically rooted in Alaska. It will leave once you try tax it to death.
     
  17. duggram

    duggram Sunrise Bahia de LA

    Well now I can say that you missed it big time! Yang said he had the data you're asking for. I don't have anything. I was just throwing the concept out there for discussion. I got what I wanted. What are you looking for?
     
  18. Phanuel

    Phanuel Well-Known Member

    https://www.yang2020.com/what-is-freedom-dividend-faq/

    This is all complete bullshit. Are you blind?

    1. Cut $600B in existing social services and replace them with 330M(US pop)*$1000 *12 = $3.960 TRILLION in social services!
    2. Tax me an additional 10% on EVERYTHING.
    3. The literal "Step 4. ???? Step 5. Profit!" meme in a plan
    4. More taxes I get to pay and the actual wealthy won't be paying because tax loopholes.

    So, tell me again, what is going to actually support this? How does this not completely f over the middle class once and for all in this country?

    As soon as you hand everyone an extra $1,000 a month, everything will go up by that amount proportionally, probably by an extra 30-40% for food and housing. Look at what government backed loans have done to the higher education market? Student loans went up and tuition costs "magically" went up and matched them.

    This isn't rocket science, but it's clearly above most peoples' understanding hence why it works so well as a magic trick to fool them.
     
  19. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    :crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup:

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  20. duggram

    duggram Sunrise Bahia de LA

    Why are you blaming me for this? I just brought up the topic. You just need someone to focus your rage on?

    Thanks for posting that link. I hadn't seen it before. Sounds like fantasy to me too.
     

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