Question for tuners pump and u4.4.

In regards to lap times probably not.... being closer to someone down the straight to make a pass on the brakes yes.

 

I've been wondering the same thing as the OP's original question. Can this be done?

 

Get a map switch and do it properly.

 

Hey aren't you in a situation like this.



Too Paul Bunyan and trying to draft, so maybe you do need a shit ton more HP or to lose 25 lbs.?

 

I could lose 25 pounds. But lord I was 255 now 230 I would have to lose alot of muscle. I do need a shit ton more just a little more.

 

He isn't a fat guy, I think he is 6'7".

 

Paul Bunyan is not fat but he's big and that's my point. So if you dwarf the bike and are punching a gigantic hole in the wind you need more HP or less weight, right?

 

no you don't...
Thermosman convinced Stefano Mesa to stop running race gas on his kawi zx10 and bmw1k .. that the pump gas would mellow the bike a bit and he'd go faster. Thermosman is smart.. he went faster..
Mesa is a lil guy, but my point being, you don't need any more power on the modern 1k's.

 

On a 600 no. I accidentally bumped the switch one time and had the MR12 map with pump gas and thought I needed a new engine...
Not sure if a 1000 is more forgiving but I doubt it. MR12 / u4.4 maps are way richer than pump gas maps due to the oxygenation.

 

I would assume he is a exception to this argument.... It’s all power to weight.... it takes more power to move 225 pounds then 150 pounds....

 

more power doesn't in and of itself make a rider go faster around a track (improve lap times). An easy bike to ride, that is smooth off corners is.. when you show me a rider that is 100% throttle a LOT of the time, then lets talk about needing "more power"
If this was a valid argument, why do expert front running 600 riders lap SIGNIFICANTLY faster than many 1000 riders

 

Your not getting what I’m saying. There comes a point where something becomes too much power hence my power to weight ratio argument. That’s why all these new 200 horspower plus bikes have all these aids to manage the power because otherwise they would be unriderable. Horsepower was probably taken out because the power to weight ratio he had wasn’t a good balance.

What I am saying is a heavier rider in a nut shell will need more power to move the extra weight then on the same bike and a lighter rider. It’s simple physics

Also what your saying is basically that you take a pro rider and think they will be faster on a 600 then a 1000 is false. Look at lap times on the same track with riders that know what they are doing. 600s are slower then 1000. Data doesn’t lie.[/QUOTE]

 

Unless you are talking about park it in the corner, block a bunch of people and drag race to the next corner at a track day more power is also harder to control in most cases. If a person is struggling to hang on to the leash of a beast they will likely go around the track faster on a bike with less power. I would suspect that at least 3/4 of the riders out there would turn faster lap times on a 600 as opposed to a 1000...

 

So your trying to argue that a professional rider would be faster on a 600 then a 1000?
I’m not talking about your track noob on the 30,000 dollar panigale

 

No one said that a pro would be faster on a 600. But some are and alot of the fairly quick not pros on 1000s would be faster on 600s. Horsepower is only 1 part of the equation and can sometimes cause things to happen too fast for mere mortals.

 

For what the U4.4 will make in HP in comparison to pump gas, it won't make much difference regardless of weight.
Pump to U4.4 will be what... 2-3-4 HP ??? I don't think it'll be Worth the extra dough for the U4.4 IMHO

Brake harder, corner faster

 

You could have a different map flashed into each power mode. No power commander or fuel switch necessary. Just change it with your stock setup.

 

Sounds like a slouch, def sbk build and mr12.

 

Some of my most fun races were using a 600 in A races. It's a came of cat and mouse really going in corners. You know you have to get in front of them or else they are gone, which leads to some passes that probably shouldn't have been made. HP might not directly affect lap times like people want but it certainly makes passing easier.

 

I had a blast this year running my tired 750 up against 1000's and 1200 ducatis... It really makes you be more creative in your lines and passes and I think made me a much better racer.