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Ducati V4R

Discussion in 'General' started by ljuice26, Nov 4, 2018.

  1. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

  2. wsmc 589

    wsmc 589 Well-Known Member

  3. Being able to rev to 16.5k will go a long way towards helping them be fast with the WSBK rpm limits.
     
  4. You can use the 1100.

    Most (if not all) clubs allow for Unlimited OEM displacement in their "Liter bike" classes. That's why I was able to race the 1299.

    You only get into the cc limits once you get into FIM racing.

    Even Australian Superbike allowed the 1299 to race. Bayliss raced the 1299 this year.

    You can't take a 1000cc and overbore it, but if it comes 1100cc from the factory, then it is ok.
     
  5. Ra.Ge. Raptor

    Ra.Ge. Raptor wanna_be_fast

    Ducati doing what they do best:
    [Basically, Ducati have engineered in an artificially high rev limit on the R to dodge any caps that will be imposed upon them by WSB’s rule makers should they start to win…]

    #cheaters :D
     
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  6. 418

    418 Expert #59


    Kinda sounds like they're playing with the rules, doesn't it.
     
  7. shakazulu12

    shakazulu12 Well-Known Member

    The specs on this bike make me lightheaded.
     
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  8. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    If a MFG didn't plan for future developments, then what?
     
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  9. motion

    motion Nihilistic Member

    Seems pretty smart to me.
     
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  10. Steeltoe

    Steeltoe What's my move?

    Lol Ducati always games the rules. Only way they compete with Japan.
     
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  11. fastfreddie

    fastfreddie Midnight Oil Garage

    Relative to the Japanese MFGs, their billions of dollars and the all-encompassing variety of categorial offerings, would it be correct to say Ducati was a niche or boutique, specialty MFG?
     
  12. Umm, you do realize Kawasaki did the exact same thing, right?
     
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  13. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    Ducati has a quarter-century headstart in this game of gaming the system. :D
     
  14. Potts N Pans

    Potts N Pans Well-Known Member

    We are talking about events before 2002 ;)

    :beer:
     
  15. thrak410

    thrak410 My member is well known

    I wonder how FIM deals with RPM redlines. Do they take the manufacturers word that it revs to 16,5? Do they pull ECU code to verify? Just thinking back to the R6 redline issues of the past.

    Also, if it has the same bore but different stroke (1103 vs 998) how can they have the same compression of 14.1? Different (taller?) pistons?
     
  16. Kurlon

    Kurlon Well-Known Member

    Different shape piston crowns, different combustion chamber shape, tighten the squish up? Only 2cc compressed volume difference to hit 14:1 with 1103/4 vs 998/4, not a lot of material.
     
  17. prospected

    prospected Well-Known Member

    I'd love to see the FIM allow them to open the electronics warfare back up. Aprilia's individual cylinder bank injection system to assist in TC was genius and worked awesome. Pretty sure Kawi and BMW had a similar cutting program.
     
  18. moto316

    moto316 Well-Known Member

    +1, i was hoping kawi would introduce the split throttle bodies on the production zx-10rr so they can homologate it and start running it again in wsb, but it sounds like they're getting by with some other ignition/fueling trickery to make it tractable off corners
     
  19. RM Racing

    RM Racing Tool user

    They look at the data Dorna does it all classes. Bore and stroke must be the same as the homologated model.
     
  20. thrak410

    thrak410 My member is well known

    Bore and stroke are listed in the article and the stroke is different.

    Interesting, thx!
     

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