300s vs sv650 track bikes

Looking to purchase a track only bike. Trying to decide between a 300 or an sv650. I’m not looking to race I just want to improve my riding. My budget is around $4000-$4500. Any advice would be helpful. Would like for the bike to have at least some kind of suspension upgrade.

 

I wouldn't buy a 300 unless I was racing it. The speed difference between it and a big bike is too great at a track day.

 

I'll sell my SV for $4500.

With all the spare wheels and sh!t.

 

This all day long. Its quite dangerous, IMHO. I also think track day providers should automatically dissalow small 4 strokes from the fast group (not racers).

 

You could get a heckuva nice SV for $4500

 

You can get a very well set up sv650 for that price, a 300 is going to be close to stock at that price. You will get more for your money with the sv650

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Pics?

 

Is it clapped out ? That seems to be a thing.

 

Has to be, they ALL are.

 

SV for sure if you arent racing. To me the 300 stuff is just to slow tonride with other class bikes. The SV’s are fast enough its not a issue IMO.

 

It's not like people run into other people or anything

 

Find an SV with stock (or mostly stock) motor, upgraded and / or well set up suspension. Stock forks with emulators and any decent aftermarket shock is plenty good enough for track days. Budget for servicing the suspension. Crash worthiness is a bonus. I am considering picking one of these up myself for a backup bike / Summit Sheeny track bike / guest bike (got to set the hook for the next group of track riders).

 

Been there done that. Started as a Novice on a Ninja 300. Good to learn on. But. Extremely dangerous, even in Novice. You just get waxed on the straights. Went to a 600. Scared me. Hurt my vagina a little. Went back to a R3 with the idea of racing. Too old and slow to have fun racing. Rode the R3 a couple times in Intermediate. Very scary. Got hit hard in the apex of a corner and knocked off the track. Didn't go down. Got lucky. Went back to a 600 as a Track Day bike only. I agree that a SV650 is a great choice for a track or race bike.

 

I've got a super tricked out Ninja 300 with full suspension, exhaust, bodywork, etc for only $3200 obo. Never had an issue at a track day, other than passing R1's in most turns, and have them try to pass back in straights. . . .

 

i forget who posted this but it still makes me laugh

 

def the SV over the 300. trackday B-group just isnt fun on a 300 unless u have lots and lots of skill.

maybe if u had asked "400 vs SV" there'd be a little more to talk about.

 

Some do.

I had a buddy who was an Expert racer and pretty fast (he came up racing on a 750). He swapped to a 250 for a lil while and wasn’t allowed to ride in Advanced at track days...for good reason.

As others have said, it is too dangerous.

An SV is a much better choice for track days.

 

I love it when the 125GP bikes show up.

E & F bikes don’t belong in advanced group unless your at the very pointy end of their capabilities. But, E&F bikes in nov or intermediate with an experienced rider are not unsafe and alot of times are a great cheap giggle fest.

 

I disagree, at least as far as the safety is concerned.

The thing is, they have to go somewhere. TD orgs won’t just ban 250/300s altogether, so they need to let them ride somewhere. But I disagree about the unsafe part.

If anything, there is potentially more danger in Nov and Int because they are surrounded by people on much faster bikes, that are inexperienced and may or may not have the skills, reaction times, etc to cope with suddenly approaching a rider going 40-70mph slower, or a rider who is (unexpectedly) taking drastically different lines and braking at different spots, or maybe not at all.

As long as people are riding in Nov and Int on Liter bikes, anyone who rides a small bike does so at their own increased risk.

Liter bikes these days can make 200hp with bolt-on parts and a tune. While all the fancy electronics can help if someone gets greedy with the throttle or brakes, they do fuckall when it comes to mitigating speed, line, and marker differentials.

I wish there was a way to have a separate group just for <400cc bikes, and maybe as they become more popular that will happen. In the meantime, you won’t catch me doing a track day on big track, on a little bike.