Johnny Rea Cal Crutchlows Cal Crutchlow

Jump on it right now and do better? Nope. Given testing and the off season prep?


Yeap.

 

I disagree. With how far the Yamaha has fallen it's the saddest joke in the GP paddock. Talent wise I don't think he's better than Mav or Rossi. I would very much love to watch that battle and be proven wrong.

 

Rea is definitely better than Mav for sure, his racecraft is way superior

 

Rea's got top 5-7 GP talent for sure, but I don't think he'd go out there and consistently do better than the current tuning fork boys. I think he'd be more like Ben, and maybe win one or a couple, top 5 in the championship. But it's all just pissing in the wind as we'll never get to see it. He's missed the GP boat, and will live out his days filling his shelves with WSBK hardware.

 

Cal responds..

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/n...Mgc5TGvHRcLBJa77KSMqRUgSMtChky1LX5WWrtzHCPJfQ

Kind of a nothing burger. For now...

 

pretty much sums up everything

“He would [beat me], he’d beat everyone in MotoGP. But we’re never going to get to see it, are we?”"

So Basically he admits Rea is the GOAT

 

Its easy to have good racecraft when you're leading every race by 10 seconds 10 laps in.

 

He does have to battle his teammate or Ducati. It's not just given to him, and he's not usually the pole setter a lot of times.

 

You must be watching different races than I am... granted I fall asleep half way through, but he hasn't really had any fights this year. When you say 'battle his teammate' do you mean cruise around for 1/2 the race, then pass Sykes and checkout? Cuz thats what I've seen...

 

I gotta disagree with some of that. I think Rea would be consistent and win multiple (on capable equipment). But yes. .the competitive ride in GP boat has sailed. So we will never know . Most we could hope for is another wild card ride but I doubt that will happen unless it's Suzuki or KTM since they're not competitors of Kawi.

 

Remember when Rea showed up at the combined wsbk/motogp test and was fastest?

 

Um....both struggled . Edwards never won a race in 12 seasons. Bayliss won a race as a wildcard.

 

Same as my opinion of Cal, Vinales seems to go backwards in multi-bike fights for position. Rossi still appears to have the racecraft to fight even if he doesn't have the bike.

The start of race 2 each round is always the best WSBK action because of Rae working through the 7 or 8 bikes starting ahead of him.

 

Just watch race 2 from last weekend in Argentina. New track for (almost) all of them and Rea came from the back to win by a mile. All while sick as a dog and trying not to puke in his helmet. One of the most impressive rides I've seen in a long time.

 

And that was with the Kawi dumbed down I am pretty sure.

 

You mean when he beat a bunch of satellite teams on a qualifier? Yeah, we remember.

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2016/11/28/jerez_test_analysis_would_jonathan_rea.html

 

It's dumbed down now too, and he still wins. They are going to put the twin 650 motor with a 8k rev limiter to even out the playing field next.

 

Your statement was it didn’t work out for them. I’d say 12 years of Motogp salary worked out just fine for Edwards. He won wsbk twice then moved on. Is your point that he would have been better off staying there? My point is he proved that on the right day and on the right bike he was good enough to race at the front. He had numerous podiums but never got the win. He proved himself, to me anyway.

Bayliss is a prime example of Rea’s point. You need to be on a good team to be competitive. He didn’t seem to be on a good bike when he was there for a few years. But, even on a wildcard ride he was able to win because his bike was good.

 

he was only 3/10th behind dovi and same as jorge on factory ducatis with motogp tech tires. cal also on a factory bike?

last time i checked, the suzuki,ktm and aprillia are factory bikes.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news...n-rea-fastest-during-testing-friday-at-jerez/


1. Andrea Dovizioso, Italy (Ducati), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:37.663

2. Cal Crutchlow, UK (Honda), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:37.818

3. Jorge Lorenzo, Spain (Ducati), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:37.921

4. Jonathan Rea, UK (Kawasaki), SBK, Pirelli, 1:37.986

5. Andrea Iannone, Italy (Suzuki), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.030

6. Pol Espargaro, Spain (KTM), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.230

7. Alex Rins, Spain (Suzuki), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.307

8. Tom Sykes, UK (Kawasaki), SBK, Pirelli, 1:38.326

9. Tito Rabat, Spain (Ducati), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.387

10. Danilo Petrucci, Italy (Ducati), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.607

11. Alex Lowes, UK (Yamaha), SBK, Pirelli, 1:38.622

12. Bradley Smith, UK (KTM), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.688

13. Scott Redding, UK (Aprilia), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.778

14. Jack Miller, Australia (Ducati), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.876

15. Franco Mobidelli, Italy (Honda), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.923

16. Takaaki Nakagami, Japan (Honda), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:38.992

17. Leon Camier, UK (Honda), SBK, Pirelli, 1:39.333

18. Xavi Fores, Spain (Ducati), SBK, Pirelli, 1:39.384

19. Eugene Laverty, Ireland (Aprilia), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:39.485

20. Sylvain Guintoli, France (Suzuki), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:39.510

21. Marco Melandri, Italy (Ducati), SBK, Pirelli, 1:39.577

22. Michael Van Der Mark, Netherlands (Yamaha), SBK, Pirelli, 1:39.577

23. Alex Marquez, Spain (Honda), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:39.782

24. Niccolo Canepa, Italy (Yamaha), SBK, Pirelli, 1:39.855

25. Michael Rinaldi, Italy (Ducati), SBK, Pirelli, 1:40.223

26. Xavier Simeon, Belgium (Ducati), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:40.332

27. Loris Baz, France (BMW), 1:40.468

28. Eugene Laverty, Ireland (Aprilia), SBK, Pirelli, 1:40.551

29. Jordi Torres, Spain (MV Agusta), 1:40.595

30. Chaz Davies, UK (Ducati), SBK, Pirelli, 1:40.630

31. Leon Haslam, UK (Kawasaki), 1:40.768

32. Dan Linfoot, UK (Honda), SBK, Pirelli, 1:40.790

33. Lorenzo Savadori, Italy (Aprilia), 1:40.841

34. Jason O'Halloran, Australia (Honda), SBK, Pirelli, 1:40.950

35. Luke Mossey, UK (Kawasaki), 1:40.984

36. Leandro Mercado, Argentina (Kawasaki), 1:41.034

37. Takumi Takahashi, Japan (Honda), MotoGP, Michelin, 1:41.089

38. Yonny Hernandez, Colombia (Kawasaki), 1:42.476

39. Nacho Calero, Spain (Kawasaki), 1:45.067

 

What? Two vastly different riders on two vastly different bikes in vastly different races...pass the dope bro...