a completly stock class or a full unlimited superbike class... hmmm whats gonna be cheaper??? smh. id expect to win the twins class people are going to be going through 1-2 engines a weekend
Zoran, Well since I haven't bought a new bike since my Ducati 916, I would probably pickup a used bike. Porting, cams pistons, etc isn't cheap if you pay someone else to do it, which I would have to. Built FZ07 Yamahas seem to be really expensive, I remember hearing Palmers top dog with trans fix, bodywork, forks, porting, pistons, etc is 25k? Haven't seen when ktm will come out or the price point. I'm guessing a SV won't have the ponies, but I know Parrish is fast and you have some fast guys too. I doubt the harleys are worthwhile? Will the Ducati really be a player? I see zx10s set up for 10 to 14k. Haven't seen any new GSXRs setup for sale? I've seen some R1s but don't remember them being as inexpensive as ZX10s? Not sure if I would want to mess with trying to setup the swingarm/handling on a Panigale. What's your thought on the best twin class bike?
Have to wait and see which one wins Hard to say. I don't like rules, hard to predict what will be bike to have. I guess most will be close at beginning until war starts.
IMO, until the KTM790 hits the US, the FZ07 is most likely the best of the homologated bunch. It's a 690, it's 30 lbs lighter than an SV, and it's a new design with relatively light wheels (5.5" rear) and excellent brakes. An FZ07 with a superstock spec chassis and a 90-93 hp motor will be a frontrunner with the right pilot, and way less than a superstock 1000.
Why? Still sell more 600's than the others. Not sure why the rumors persist that they're going somewhere.
It may depend on which manufacturers continue to build/develop their 600's. It might ultimately just become an R6 cup.
When is the last time you saw sales numbers? Curious how many R3's were sold last year vs. R6/R1. I wouldn't be surprised if actual 600's mostly go away in favor of 650-850 "middleweights", mostly twins.
Haven't looked in a while but the people I know at the OEM's have said they sell a ton of 600's. I see more 600's on the street. I see more 600's on the track. The little bikes are much much much bigger worldwide sure, but that won't nuke the 600's.
I'm still curious where the rumors keep coming from. My guess is normal internet silliness, one person said it and it spreads with no real reasoning backing it up.
I don't know (or really care) if 600's are going away, but whatever happens- race classes will follow what sells on the street, not the other way around (sadly).
How long will people keep buying 600's if development remains stagnant? Especially if lots of new models in other classes continue to progress?
No it’s stemming from sales, insurance, lack of bike development (from lack of sales), etc, etc... Ride safe, AAron
If the lack of development doesn’t tell you enough go talk to dealers. I have. I have yet to find one talking positive about 600 sales. Most sell maybe a handful a year recently. To be honest most will tell you they don’t even want to sell Sport bikes. People are buying naked bikes, adventure bikes, etc. They sell a bit more liter bikes based on development and technology advances. Manufactures like BMW are on record saying development of a 600 is a waste of time. The sales aren’t there to justify it and costs are almost same as developing the 1000. Dorna will pay attention to these trends. MotoAmerica pays attention to Dorna. Ride safe, AAron