Vintage Rules for 2018 Bikes not points

Whoops sorry.
I ment to say SS rules dont apply to Vintage so the performance advantages are gone.
We are a superbike rule class.
But my point is that the bikes mongo says will kill class are wrong.
I not only raced against them when new ive also raced against carb Shrad 600 in Cmra.
And the bike i raced against in Cmra was Nicky Haydens old 600 built by Hyper Cycle. And it has a superbike motor in it.
But all i am and have tried to do is get more guys on grids.

Steven Isenhower #52

 

You amaze me with what you actully know about whats really on grid in V7.
You dont have a clue what it takes to make a bike competitive in V7.
Im still waiting for your ideal on how to grow grids In Vintage.
Obviously i have no clue cause you keep pointing this out.
So tell everyone your ideals.

Steven Isenhower #52

 

I think there is some truth to this. Honestly, I have no interest in racing "serious" bikes, and if the LW classes didn't exist I would probably quit.

I'm sure I'm not the barometer for this, but I can't be the only one either.

 

You are correct sir.
I know nothing at all.
Yet im the one putting a bike on grid in V7 and racing it.
Oh and lets not forget i want rules that help me win a national title.
The rules now in place already
helped me win V7HW in 2015.
Ive prove my point why they don't work.
So tell me what yrs you raced sir?
Cause ive ran 600 class from 1990 to 1999 and vintage after that.
And been racing V7 since 2013.
So yep i am kind of an expert on this subject about the 600s we are talking about.
But what i do know is come next yr i will be on grid in V7 to race.
Question is how many others will be on grid with me in V7 classes or any vintage classes?

Steven Isenhower #52

 

You are correct sir.
I know nothing at all.
Yet im the one putting a bike on grid in V7 and racing it.
Oh and lets not forget i want rules that help me win a national title.
The rules now in place already
helped me win V7HW in 2015.
Ive prove my point why they don't work.
So tell me what yrs you raced sir?
Cause ive ran 600 class from 1990 to 1999 and vintage after that.
And been racing V7 since 2013.
So yep i am kind of an expert on this subject about the 600s we are talking about.
But what i do know is come next yr i will be on grid in V7 to race.
Question is how many others will be on grid with me in V7 classes or any vintage classes?

Steven Isenhower #52

 

Yep. I started (with WERA) in 08 on an R1. Took less than a year to figure out that was a mistake for me (not a mistake for everyone, just a mistake for me). The smaller the bikes got the better rider I became and the more fun I had. I have zero interest in going back to a 600 or 1K.

 

On the 600 and 1000 bikes it's definitely a thing, I've both heard and read similar opinions being voiced.

I feel the same way as you regarding LW and Vintage. No interest at all in tripling/quadrupling my annual tire budget.

 

I can say this about V7 class.
I use 2 sets of tires a yr on average.
Bikes are cheap and a bunch for sale already setup.
And rules dont change.
You get lots of passing practice and its fun.
Stickboy has a F3 and Lance Yeager has ZX6R and JT is selling his V7 bike.
Among others.
I know a few F3s from Cmra are for sale.
All bikes less than 2500 and most with spares.
I know im leaving out a few.
So come join the circus in V7.

Steven Isenhower #52

 

if the Suzuki SRAD 600 was added, I'll come out to the SE events.

 

Does an 04 GSXR 600 fit in anything except v8?

 

LOL, I just want my FZ600 to run.

 

Well you need any help just hit me up.
Been solving issues on these old bikes a while.
Carbs and rusted tanks seem to be biggest issues if motor is solid.
Ethonal gas kills fuel systems and needles and seats and tanks.

Steven Isenhower #52

 

Motor is crap, starting from scratch. Rest of it is fine.

 

No

 

What yr motor you need?
I can make some calls.

Steven Isenhower #52

 

Already being done. Thanks, though.

 

Just my thoughts on this. Those large events are three day events. At least, Barber is more. A regular weekend with WERA is a single day for the older bikes. And if you are only able to run one or maybe two WERA events a year it's tough to justify the added expense of the AMA membership and the WERA license to get eight laps in a weekend. But I also understand it would be very hard for WERA to justify a vintage only weekend. But perhaps a joint USCRA / WERA Summit Point weekend might be a great event that would be easier to justify.

Craig

 

That's the only real solution that has any potential to solve anything. The current setup of race orgs is still based off the economy from 2000-2005ish. It is simply numbers, not enough racers to support the current setup. WERA/CCS/whatever vintage stuff all need to get together and just pick and choose where they operate, regional setup is probably the most logical. I believe you can still "work together" and still be competing for the same business.

Vintage is a fickle topic (all bikes older than 2000 fall into this), a lot of people interested from the spectator stand point, but the number of riders is still way too small. Too many different vintage events happening for the relative small number of racers to hit.

 

I hate to say it Dustin but I'm one of those "a couple a year is OK" guys. If I only make VMD, I'm fine with that. If I manage to hit Tally or Grattan just once a season and that's all I do, OK too.

The hard truth is it just isn't as big a deal to me anymore and I'm tired of putting anywhere from 20-60 hours getting a bike ready to race for 8 laps. And when I do show up I'm the only guy in my class. Talk about participation trophies...got plenty of them! I've gotten about to the point of finding a modern 250 that only needs tires once a season and a push of a button to go. That totally goes against my love of Vintage, but I miss the days when we had a field full of RD's...and it's not coming back.