GNF Endurance Proposal... (for those that don't ever visit the Endurance Forum)

Did you even type that with a straight face? How can you say that you haven't seen any suggestions. There are two current threads that have numerous suggestions that will help your organization better market themselves.

 

I am not mad. I am providing feedback on what my observations are. You may not like the feedback, but that doesn't mean that I am mad at you or WERA. If I were mad at you or WERA I would not be racing with you. And I certainly would not have approached you at NOLA last weekend to discuss an issue I have witnessed on here and think could be improved upon. I truly want to see WERA grow.

I am disappointed and concerned over the lack of entries at the double header National races last weekend, so maybe that is why I am vocal about what I perceive as issues.

 

You were heavily involved in both threads!

 

I like you guys, and really love being able to run an endurance series, but a model that results in a cancellation at - 6 days loses a lot of credibility. It's not like you couldn't have researched the potential conflict that was apparently at the root of the cancellation. That's simply not doing due diligence.

I need to reconsider whether it is worth the risks given that it seems the above scenario is a real possibility. The cancellation tanked our entire effort at a championship, and now my team isn't even interested in running the last round.

I've got more to say, but it's going in a private letter to Evelyne.

 

You start with updating your homepage. No, I'm not whoever the hell you think I am. I know next to nothing about web design, but I know I could google shit and improve it in about 2 hours. I will tell you what I am. I am a first year racer with WERA that chose you guys over CCS because you guys offered more events closer to home. For this year, at least.


Yes, your homepage falls under marketing. It's 2013. People primarily use the internet for infor nowadays. Adapt the organization to reflect this. It's not particularly newbie friendly at all. Yes, to us who know where to go it's easy, but ask someone [Who is new to the website] to find out when the next race is at soandsotrack. You would be surprised at the results. I've never talked to ONE person (WERA racer or not) that's said "WERA's webpage is super easy to navigate".

Update the damn text for online pre-registration. "This is still in the works/working out the bugs/blah blah". The shit works fine every time. Update it.

Ping your sponsers for new damn ads. The guys from STG probably thought I was retarded when I asked for the 2 for 1 Hotbodies kit. So if they've paid for their advertisments for the year, ask for new updated ads. Not hard at all.

I don't know what got dated first, this VIR shin dig or WERA's Summit event, but event cancellations make people (inlcuding me) weary to request time off work to drive x amount of hours to race. Why should I bother if there's a chance it's going to get cancelled again [November Summit event]? I don't see numbers behind the closed doors, and I don't know how much you guys *thought* you might lose, but cancelling the event did a damn fine job of ensuring you lost everything.


From an outsider looking in on this topic of endurances, you look like a naive, lazy fucking turd. "Oh, we've tried everything with marketing". You seem completely unreceptive to any kind of criticism. Quit being complacent, and do something to help benefit both WERA and the number of riders on the grid.

 

That's what Valentino Rossi thought too.

 

Keep your head on a swivel Mongo!


Chill Cyber Bullys

 

Did you have to go there?

You know I am by no means in any place to give anybody shit about a potty mouth. But that was uncalled for, especially in a post that appeared very well thought out, well written and actually seemed very constructive.

There is a time and place for everything. That post was actually the kind of posts that can help. You were on a really good roll with that post, until that shit at the end.

You have been here long enough to know how Mongo is going to react to that. I would react the same way to it. So whatever positive influence might have been forthcoming from your suggestions, totally went to shit with the name calling. I know Mongo can be a doodie head. I have called him a doodie head several times. But I will at least finish a complete, constructive post. Then make a separate post to call him a doodie head so my previous constructive post isn't ruined.

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Well played.

 

Yes the website is marketing. There are thousands of people using it and I've gotten no emails from anyone bitching about it. I have gotten emails about how it's easy to navigate. I have you and of course some experts in the field of design who actually could do a better design telling me it could be better - let me clarify that, I have you bitching, I have others who have facts giving me constructive input. I honestly didn't think that schools had gotten so bad the word schedule wasn't easy to understand. But I'm still not seeing anything you're upset about specifically. I get it, you think it sucks. Please tell me why.

Actually we are still tweaking it and will be revamping the payment structure at the end of this season since Google Checkout is shutting down. I am glad you've had a trouble free experience with it.

The advertisers are customers. I don't tell them what to advertise. They have to renew payment for the banners and can change their artwork at any time. I don't know if they're running a special or not, that's not something I can keep up with. I am sorry you personally were embarrassed although I don't understand why you were. You went off an ad that Hotbodies had created.

What does that have to do with our web page?

What does that have to do with our web page?

 

I just want to call you a turd

 

Me too... I'm looking forward to it again this year!

 

When AMA ran the Moto-ST and Moto-GT series, we ran it for one reason and stopped when that reason went away,,,, MONEY.

Here is the condensed version; easier on one page.

 

Your suggestions had merit until the last paragraph where you decided to engage in insulting Mongo personally.....
Just a thought you may or may not want to consider in the future...insulting a person's character in any form, (particularly a public forum), rarely gets you the results you are after and ultimately will create pushback in any given situation.
Consensus is built through rational conversation, not name calling....