The EBR bikes have had up to 25lbs of ballast ADDED to them to meet minimum weight limits. Just making an observation
Believe it or not, in series with minimum weight standards, most teams still strive to get as much weight off the vehicle as possible, then they put the ballast on where it will least effect the handling.
I didn't think most teams had to add weight, though I had heard the twins usually have to. I can't imagine they add weight in places where it would be very effect for wheelie control. Probably low and central? I don't know. Anyway, I was just driving at the point that the electronics are there because they work better.
my comments are not about what works best. For that look at MotoGP. My comments are about what can help while still achieving that balance of cost versus performance. Also known as budget racing.
As to my previous outbursts in this thread. I need to apologize to Rick and the others. No excuses. I was just being a dick. I'm sorry
So all of a sudden, you're not a dick anymore??? Riiiiighht. Go the fuck away. Why stick around a place that you're really not welcomed? Stop trying to hang around the cool kids.
That's what I was saying too. They've been on the podium already and are getting close to it on a pretty consitant basis in large part due to Danny and Geoff's internal ECU's, but given parity in electronics it looks to me like that bike might get closer to the top step!
You're talking to a man who added his own personal "R&D" to the estimate of his used bike's value. Are you surprised he is taking on professional race mechanics?
So why is this bike $22,500? http://www.gravesport.com/Graves-Motorsports-Yamaha-R6-Supersport-Sportbike-2010.html It doesn't cost that much for the parts and to slap it together.
Could it be that your bike's pedigree is slightly less impressive than Graves Motorsports? Just a guess…
R&D from Graves adds value to a machine. R&D from some computer geek with no results to back up his R&D removes value from a machine. That and Graves isn't sell a used machine for 22k. Graves is also including support of their product which like their R&D adds value to their product.
Funny. Show me what is better in that bike than what is in my bike? Seriously? That bike is a basically stock bike with a couple of things bolted to it. Same as mine. The only thing my bike doesn't have is a rider who can show what it can do. But that's about research and development and its already been stated that people thing R&D isn't worth paying for.
It's new. People can trust that the bolted on parts will work as advertised. It has been proven the parts being bolted on work as advertised via race results. It has the support of the Graves crew. It has proven R&D whereas you have R&D that has proven to be slow. You can blame the rider and you could be right but you have absolutely nothing to show your R&D doesn't actually hurt performance.