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gaddafi

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by Dave K, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. pickled egg

    pickled egg There is no “try”

    So? Does the opinion of a "significantly large group of countries" change the facts?

    Which facts? Can you be more specific?
     
  2. gaitherb

    gaitherb Well-Known Member

    The opinion of the "significantly large group" does not change facts, and I don't believe you and I were discussing facts as much as we were discussing your characterization of NATO's and the US' actions. So continuing along the line of the characterization of the actions, the large group's support goes directly to establishing the legitimacy of the actions. Here that analysis was done and the outcome was the death of Gaddafi. By the way, we shouldn't lose sight that Gaddafi was responsible for the Lockerbie bombing that killed 178 Americans -- mostly students.

    I suspect that's one of the underlying reason why the US waits for NATO to join in an action (in particular in the Middle East), not for their physical support, but for a little "cover" for the US' actions; meaning we need for other countries to evaluate the circumstances and make a determination that a leader has violated international law and adverse action should be taken against that individual or government.

    Concerning the Ron Paul statment about the US' killing of al-Awlaki, he indicated that this killing was violative of the US' Constitution because there was no trial for the American. When you analyze that statement on its face, it appears to be true, until you add the facts to it. A-Awlaki was a known terrorist and claimed credit for terrorist activities against the US. The US marked this terrorist for death because of his attempts to kill Americans and his relationships and influence on several terrorist that killed Americans (Ft. Hood killer and underwear bomber). So, when you add the facts to al-Awlaki's death, it becomes apparent that this wasn't some random killing of an American abroad by the US, but the killing of a terrorist that most agree lost all rights under the Constitution that minute he became an enemy-combatant.
     
  3. panthercity

    panthercity Thread Killa

  4. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    I suspect that's one of the underlying reason why the US waits for NATO to join in an action (in particular in the Middle East), not for their physical support, but for a little "cover" for the US' actions; meaning we need for other countries to evaluate the circumstances and make a determination that a leader has violated international law and adverse action should be taken against that individual or government.

    I thought we were supposed to consult the UN for months, kinda like the evil Bush did?
     
  5. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    I see the US is now claiming they had nothing to do with Gawacki being killed, it was just one of those things. Couldn't be because questions are being asked about the circumstances surrounding his death while "resisting". The Great Satan awaits blame in the wings, depending on if it's seen as a good shoot or not.
     
  6. SGVRider

    SGVRider Well-Known Member

    I wish Ol' Jheri Curls had been kneecapped instead. It'd have been nice to see him disemboweled alive and drug through the streets behind a camel like he deserved. As for giving him a burial, why? Chop off his head and stick on a pike, let the crows and dogs feed on the rest. It was a crime against humanity that this piece of shit was allowed to live decades after he murdered our citizens.
     
  7. SGVRider

    SGVRider Well-Known Member

    I highly doubt China, Russia, and Somalia want their cities turned to glass and all their citizens swept away by the cleansing winds of thermonuclear fire.
     
  8. murf

    murf Well-Known Member



    Please, the USA couldn't stomach a real war, much less getting nuked by Russia and china.
     
  9. panthercity

    panthercity Thread Killa

    The last thing he heard was "Gaddafi, Duck!"
     
  10. Sacko DougK

    Sacko DougK Well-Known Member

    Tell me, what exactly is a "real" war? Are you saying that the Global War on Terror is not a "real" war?

    :Pop:
     
  11. codzilla

    codzilla Well-Known Member

    Doesn't China, Russia, Somalia and several other nations already consider our leader and nation a "scourge" to the planet and only the threat of a "real war" keep them from an armed overthrow and assassination in the US?
     
  12. In Your Corner

    In Your Corner Dungeonesque Crab AI Version

    Your jokes are as lame as mine. :bow:
     
  13. panthercity

    panthercity Thread Killa

    Then I'm in good company! :D
     
  14. Johnny B

    Johnny B Cone Rights Activist

  15. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck


    Absolutely disagree.

    Better to burn the rest of the world's oil, and leave ours in the ground. Especially considering the idtios are still taking those worthless pieces of paper for it. Then, when the rest of the world has no oil, we can use our own and no-one will have any way to come take it since they can't move their armies with no oil.

    Simple.
     
  16. auminer

    auminer Renaissance Redneck

    :crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup:
     
  17. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member


    Oops, I'm sorry I didn't respond to this before. (At least I don't think I did)

    Obama himself I don't think did. His supporters have though and I have seen opinion pieces saying so. Sorry, I don't remember which ones.
     
  18. panthercity

    panthercity Thread Killa

    My supporter says "Bike"
     
  19. Flex Axlerod

    Flex Axlerod Banned

    dont know why we should care. We can just send President Sock Puppet on one of his bowing apology tours to fix things up.
     

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