Is this Sexual Harassment ?

You know what guys are like, you'd be prepared for something like this I would guess. As for your wife, she should be used to it, it's probably happened all her life.
Laugh it off and everything should be just fine.

 

Whoa, did I just say something that made sense?
Miracles do exist.

 

The problem is a woman shouldn't have to just laugh it off because she hot and has had to deal with it all her life. If it's the same person repeatedly coming on ther her, etc. then that person should be dealt with.

The flip side of that is hot women trying to use their hotness to their advantage on the job. That pisses me off just as bad as guys harassing them.

I get to see this shit working in nightclubs with hot famale employees. They like to play both sides of the harassment fence.

 

Did this here sexual thing happen in subs often?

 

Sexual harassment on subs was not only allowed but was also graded.

 

My My how things have changed. I worked at a Toyota dealer in Atlanta back in the 80's, they bring in this new saleswomen. Not bad looking, but nothing special. She desperately wanted to fit in and started hanging around what they call kitchen meetings, where salesman stand around and tell bullshit stories and embellish on how cool they are. Anyway, she joins in the meeting and to break the ice, she tells one of the sales managers, you smell good, what do you have on.
He looks at her and says, ive got a hard on, but i didnt know you gals could smell it. I spit coffee across the room, everyone else is just stunned, and she is mortified, so we thought. That weekend, they are out shacked up in a hotel room and date for the next 6 months.

 

Sounds like crap, but who knows what was said before/after like you said without actually being there.

 

Holy shit, that line still works? I used that in college, and it worked every time.
A bottle of Old Spice was all that I needed. That and being a college skiing star. And some chloroform (think roofies in a bottle.)

 

You should have told the lady bend over I'll show sexual harassment.

 

Do you know what menopause is? Heres a hint: Its not for teens or women in child bearing age.

 

Once again I am forced to ask, why does the department have to suck? Why do most suck?

And since you are absolutely the most intelligent soul on the planet, you could have speculated the departments add on a a second round of sexual harassment for using the term "fuck off". Or better yet if devilishly sly, I might just throw in instigating a hostile work enviornment. But what do I know..

 

any update on this?

 

This story reminded me of the Sex Panther scene in Anchorman......except your coworker got laid

maybe the guy had a mistress who is 40ish and said she was going through or had gone through menopause....and he wanted to know more about it so he did not get screwed (she gets pregnant) after getting screwed.

It does have plenty to do with women in the child bearing age.....since it is the last chapter to close out that process of being able to bear a child.

are you going to tell us that the "pull out method" is 100% effective next??

 

I really hate this. My hands are tied. All he wants is his job back . I hope he wins

So the question is where is the line ??

Discuss ...[/QUOTE]

Seems that in all this thread no-one really answered the question.

You have just taken part in the highly questionable firing of a worker. He has been a good if not particularly sharp worker. You probably feel to some degree he trusted and respected you and that you let him down. "I hate this" means you hate the company for doing this - and that you don't much like yourself either for what you have just done....

"Where is the line ? "

In the end you have to answer to your own conscience. If you cant do what your job is requiring you to do - and still sleep at night - then its time to be looking for a different job.

 

Seems that in all this thread no-one really answered the question.

You have just taken part in the highly questionable firing of a worker. He has been a good if not particularly sharp worker. You probably feel to some degree he trusted and respected you and that you let him down. "I hate this" means you hate the company for doing this - and that you don't much like yourself either for what you have just done....

"Where is the line ? "

In the end you have to answer to your own conscience. If you cant do what your job is requiring you to do - and still sleep at night - then its time to be looking for a different job.[/QUOTE]

Your part in the termination was minimal as your only part was to escort him off the premises. Until we know under what context he made the comment to the female pharmacy worker, there is nothing else anyone can conclude. Unless there was a specific medical circumstance that he made the comment, then there's little more to discuss.

Also, you should be aware that it could cause you serious problems if a representative from your company found you to be discussing the matter publicly.

What truth you should realize is that people make bad decisions. Regardless if they are the most talented individual in the organization, everyone must abide by the rules. Yes it is unfortunate that a talented individual has lost his/her position. But, if a company fails to hold employees accountable for violating policy, then it might as well not have policies at all, and start writing blank check to anyone who shows up with an attorney.

 

Having a line manager escort an employee of premises without him understanding why he is doing the escorting is item 1.

Most HR departments are policy-wonks. They usually have zero connection to the business that an organization is involved in. This leads to them being of zero value to managers in almost all situations. Their only function is to insulate the company from lawsuit losses. They subsequently become myopic and do not serve the long term health of the human resource for the company.

HR groups should be service providers to the groups that actually do the work and male the money. They commonly forget that.

That's been my experience in a few Fortune 500s and I'd be willing to bet 4 out of 5 managers in mid to large companies will tell you the same thing.

 

So protecting a company from a lawsuit is myopic. Enforcing policies fails to provide long term health. HR groups should provide service to those who work and make the money. Only one of these statements makes any sense. Departments focused on employee management and performance could focus more time on value added functions if it weren't for "money makers" who have issues keeping their behaviors in check. Such as a VP of Sales falsifying expense reports and taking kickbacks to support his hooker and blow habit. Or maybe a International Commercial Accounts Manager who instead of visiting customers and vendors in Asia, spends his foreign travel time looking for "little boys." Or maybe it was the janitor who filed a workers comp claim for hurting his back moving office furniture, and needed to be out for 6 weeks , yet strangely found the energy to go ziplining and parasailing.

Any thoughts, "money maker"?

 

Only focusing on this as their role is myopic. That's the definition of myopic.

Sounds like I've touched a nerve with someone who works in a cost center instead of a profit center.

HR can provide a valuable role for organizations. Most of them, in my experience, fuck it up.

 

Alluding to the fact that profit center employees are the only individuals who bring value to an organization, is rather myopic, isn't it..

And all employees in an organization are valuable. Especially the ones who realize early on the being value added has dual meaning during a forced ranking.

 

Unreal, his question should have followed a "are you on a rag" question.