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Japanese scientists slam Global Warming

Discussion in 'The Dungeon' started by Tinfoil hat charly, Feb 25, 2009.

  1. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member


    From the research that I've seen we will see dryer Southern latitudes and wetter Northern latitudes as the temp goes up. It's done this many times in the past, and that has been proven. Instead of growing cotton in the South we will eventually end up farming it in the Northern states.

    I believe that (from what I've read recently) the Arctic glaciers are growing some presently so some of the water (snow and ice) that's being melted in the Antarctic is being captured by the growing glaciers in the Arctic in the form of snow. Maybe that's why the ocean levels aren't climbing much. I read a scientific paper a couple of months ago that stated that the oceans are rising about 1 millimeter per year. (Good God, run for the hills):)

    The Earth has been taking care of itself for millions of years through natural cycles and Al Gore is simply making money from his followers.
     
  2. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member


    You're a girl after my own heart. Let's get married.

    Is there anything wrong with a person that brings home a two layer choc cake on Sat morning and eats the whole damn thing before Monday morning? :eek:
     
  3. Orvis

    Orvis Well-Known Member


    And I want the ambulance contract. :up:
     
  4. Booger Van der Jackass

    Booger Van der Jackass Well-Known Member

    For me, the concern is more systemic. Full or partial collapse of a more basal layer of system can have upreaching effects. For instance, if cyanobacteria (blue-green alge) can out compete phytoplankton in slightly warmer water, that spells trouble. Phytoplankton (the world's largest "carbon sink") are the base of the ocean's foodchains. Also, cyanobacteria don't use CO2 for photosynthesis. They fix oxygen.

    I'm not claiming that this is happening. I'm merely stating this if the type of concern I have. I could care less about boxwoods and rhododendrons.
     
  5. Bosarge22

    Bosarge22 Active Member


    Thoes were the most dangerous bike ever built!
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Flies all green 'n buzzin

    IMO the TZ750 gets that distinction. H2 = most dangerous street bike. That thing had a toggle switch for a throttle and a hinge built into the frame. :D
     
  7. Bosarge22

    Bosarge22 Active Member

    Yes for street bikes it was. A friend uses a H2 motor on his go Kart, and put a big turbo on it. Totaly sick. I think it melted the artic cap all by itself.
     
  8. Spyderchick

    Spyderchick Leather Goddess

    no.

    Mmmmm. chocolate layer cake with chocolate buttercream frosting and chocolate jimmies...<drooooool>

    Can ya'll tell I'm eating decent? 17 lbs and counting.
     
  9. Booger Van der Jackass

    Booger Van der Jackass Well-Known Member

    Is jimmies Wisconsonian for sprinkles? Around here, a jimmy has a totally different meaning. :D
     
  10. Spyderchick

    Spyderchick Leather Goddess

    Yup. We also say "bubbler" for "drinking fountain". ;)
     
  11. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    :crackup:

    You're not turned on by the idea of really old, conservative sex?
     
  12. cav115

    cav115 Well-Known Member

    +1- Political BS to generate fear and more gov agencies.
     
  13. Ian178

    Ian178 Well-Known Member

    I understand the contention that any amount of warming could result in minor changes throughout the global ecosystem, thus resulting in harmful aggregate effects. While I haven't studied the validity of such claims, I respect those who are concerned about the issue due to their own in depth research.

    The problem is that what your "concerned" about is such a complicated issue that it would probably take years to address all of the related scenarios and possibilities associated with it. Thats why there is still no reasonable conclusion about it in the scientific community.

    Global warming is not an issue because it is a great threat to the environment. It is an issue because politicians can cash in on the guilt and fear associated with it. People are not supporting "Green" policy because they have studied real research on it, they are supporting it because they have been told to. The end result is that liberal policy makers use this chip all the time to hurt industry and move America down the path to the destruction which is socialism.

    Why is our private sector in need of a government bailout? Because of government regulation that hurt profitability, a lot of it having to do with the environment.

    I personally believe that giving into the underlying policy behind global warming is going to have a much more painful effect much sooner than people realize.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2009
  14. SGVRider

    SGVRider Well-Known Member

    Oh yes. The Messiah and friends are proposing a cap-and-trade scheme for carbon by 2010. IE: A huge energy tax by a different name. I'd be interested to see a study of the total marginal tax rates if all of the 'Bama's wonderful proposals go through, to include city, state, payroll, and environmental taxes. We should probably approach and exceed the 50% mark in some income brackets. That's in addition to the taxes hidden by making the employer pay them (like the 15.3% taxes for Medicare and Social Security, half of which is disguised by making the employer match the employee). The additional regulatory burden should also do a nice job of hampering productivity and growth.
     
  15. sdg

    sdg *

    From: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
    Just heard this today. oops.

    The other one I heard recently is that the particulate emissions have offset the greenhouse gas emissions and if we hadn't had the particulate emissions then it would be 10x worse.

    So I'm actually HELPING when I'm blowing smoke out of the truck.

    Go screw.

    Your kids will have to deal with it.

    Like Dave said - I don't care.
     
  16. Rich Graver

    Rich Graver Well-Known Member

    Wrong-o Marylou ! Japan has a complex recycle system. My son,who lives there, says they recycle EVERYTHING. The only thing that hits the water is the stuff they make land out of.
     
  17. 999

    999 Well-Known Member

    So what were the maximum marginal tax rates in the booming 50s and 60s?

     

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