Bird, the issue with the CX9 is the engine. Put a 6 in it and I'll buy one tomorrow. I hate the idea of a 4 in a car that big and just can not get past that.
We love our cx9. Very luxurious interior, comfortable for long drives, the power is there when you need it thanks to the turbo but if you can stay out of the gas pedal it gets very good mileage. We have the Grand touring package. No complaints after 2 years of ownership.
Yeah, but, it's a four. With my old CX9 I usually get 16 ~ 19 mpg. Worst was 6 (I was gooning it up in the snow).
I think Mazda did a lot of research and said most SUV drivers never really go past 3500 rpm, so they hit you with 310 lb-ft of torque from 2000 rpm, which is more than the old engine. Never really felt any turbo lag, and with Premium fuel you get about 250 hp . Well, it beats driving any other SUV out there, if you had to have a SUV. When I was in Cali, I think I got like around 22-25 mpg in it.
Yeah, I just mentally can not get past it being a four. Same thing I hate about the Q5. I also think I want to go slightly bigger than the CX9. The Kia kind of ticks the boxes, we'll see.
The CX9 is good for our family of 4, the 3rd row is pretty useless except for our kids who like it back there. It's not going to be great for a bigger family.
All I know about the Telluride is that the guy next to me at work has one and was raving about the self driving feature. He's also a complete douche, and judging by his taste in food and beer I'd say the Kia is a complete POS. So.... I'll give my standard answer: Toyota/Lexus or Honda/Acura.
I like the KIA Telluride / Hyundai Palisade. They look pretty good and seem like great value for the money. I disagree with whoever said Hyundais don't go over 60k miles without something major going wrong. A lot of taxis here are Sonatas and are easily over 200k urban miles without any major issues. I'd trust the Koreans much more than anything from Detroit. Of course they are brand new vehicles this year so they could have the usual growing pains associated with such, but it wouldn't deter me from getting one if I was in the market for a full size suv. Rumor is KIA/Hyundai will be releasing a small pickup on this platform next year too.
It seems like KIA/Hyundai service keeps a stock of engines at each dealership. Person said they couldn't fit all the engines in one pic. There was another pic of all the discarded 2.0 engines on a weekly basis. It was way more than I would say you see at a Toyota dealer https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolled...omised_heres_our_hyundai_engine_pile_amongst/
These are 2.0T direct injection engines which have been known to fail, nothing to do with the 3.8 Lambda II 6 cyl.
does the telluride have the same engine as the Sorrento? Edit I see from Wiki The 3.8L Atkinson cycle version was introduced with the 2020 Hyundai Paliside and 2020 Kia Telluride. Compression ratio is 13.0:1 and the engine produces 291 hp (217 kW; 295 PS) at 6,000 rpm and 262 lb⋅ft (355 N⋅m) of torque at 5,200 rpm That seems to be pretty under powered for such a large machine and it's way late in the rev range. What are they VTEC Honda Civics?
Rented one, liked it overall but my right leg was hurting in short order due to the console placement with regard to the gas pedal. Sucked going Vegas to Cali and back.
The KIAs have become very popular in Europe. They are outselling Japanese brands, and making inroads into German brand sales. The Germans are very picky about cars. Probably something to the popularity.