Alabama abortion law...

Now we are talking on the same wavelength.

 

I’ll agree about the welfare thing with you.

 

I’ll leave it at that.

 

Now just as I am with abortion I am not willing to tell someone they can not have welfare help when they need it.

 

Most current forms of birth control are quite effective. I am offering one option that I personally find morally acceptable. There would be little point in defending my views if I failed to offer some realistic alternatives. As I have repeatedly said, I am not in favor of entirely eliminating abortion. However, it is my sincere belief that at some point abortion is murder. For me, that point is fetal heartbeat. Arbitrary, perhaps, but there must be a line.

 

Would you mind citing that? Would be very interested to see that data you’re referencing.

Thanks.

 

Because they don’t want one, can’t afford one, or it will interfere with their lives.

I’m done for the time being. I need to hangout with my family and stop the keyboard debate.

 

There is no room for compromise because the positions are incompatible.

One wants to control another, the other wants nothing to do with controlling another.

The reasoning isn't germane.

 

All valid reasons...

 

I did.

I paid Doctor Gregory C. Luck personally for the luxury of having my then-gf's womb evacuated of the parasite I contributed to the creation of.

Am I an ok guy in your eyes now?

 

Yes. There is a line. Viability.

You can draw your own line wherever you like. Beautifully, there's no one with a gun to your head forcing you to get an abortion outside the parameters you find personally acceptable.

 

My motivation is not control, unless you consider any restriction on homicide to be about control.

 

You say control. What is an abortion? It’s the mom forcing her will, I.e. control, to that innocent kid.

We both know this topic is a revolving door. We will both look for the”gotch ya” line, once we think we have, the other will try to prove different.

 

https://savethestorks.com/2017/05/real-reasons-women-abortions/

 

I'm going with Boones Farm Strawberry as #1. At least in Mesquite, Texas in the mid 80's.

 

When mom backs over the kid with the car is there a difference in that dead kid versus the one that was aborted? Both can be viewed as a tragedy, both have little to no impact on society or anyone outside of the immediate family so where is the difference. What if due to lack of ability to obtain a legal abortion the future mother just decides to not eat well, smoke, drink and take up roller derby while pregnant until she miscarries. Is the outcome any different? I hate the what ifs but a legally obtained abortion is not the only path to not carrying a pregnancy to term.

 

Abortion isn't homocide.

 

So sayeth the law currently.

 

And here is the crux of the matter. Short of the lunatic fringe, the whole argument comes down to where that line should be drawn. I think most of us can agree that human life is worthy of protection. I just want to extend that protection to an earlier point of development.

 

Why..are we running out of humans? Is there a shortage?