Enough, let's see the books!

t500racer · May 13, 2018

NESBA sucks.

RossK6 · May 13, 2018

RossK6 said: ↑

Yeah, it sounded like that, but then he’s also saying that the board petitioned the court to keep the accounts out of this hands due to the ongoing litigation.
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Ok, I re-read the OP, so it looks like I had the order reversed. If he’s correct, Inge’s suit was dismissed. It seems weird that the determination of standing was made so late in the game.

rd49 · May 13, 2018

CRRC93 said: ↑

After watching the progression of the CMRA lawsuit and the way the CMRA Board acted when they were asked to examine the books, AS REQUIRED BY LAW FOR ANY NON-PROFIT, I decided to ask myself. I have no axe to grind and have never met Mr. Inge (if you put him in a lineup, I could not tell you which was him), but I do know that the law requires, in exchange for the benefits granted to non-profits, that they be transparent. Instead of just opening the books, the CMRA Board attacked Mr. Inge, which is exactly as you would expect IF THEY WERE GUILTY.

So I asked to see the books and was directed to one of the club's attorneys and was told how difficult it would be to collect all the info I had asked for, implying, falsely, that the information did not exist in digital form. At this point I noted that all of that info must have been collected as part of the suit and that I just wanted whatever they had put together for that case.

At this point they conceded that yes the information was in digital form, but they would have to ask the judge overseeing the case. That, of course, was not what they did and instead they asked the judge to prohibit examination of the information until the case was settled. In other words, they asked the judge to circumvent the law and keep me from getting the info the law says I am entitled to.

The latest on the case is that Mr. Inge, who was improperly ejected from the club, does not have "standing" and so they hoped the whole thing would go away WITHOUT ANY EXAMINATION OF THE BOOKS.

I, however, do have "standing" and so the case will go forward and at some point we will learn exactly what the story is, as far as the club's books.

Finally, the CMRA Board has a responsibility to the membership to obey the law and to control costs. The amount of money the Board has squandered fighting to keep the club's books secret, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW REGARDING NON-PROFITS, could have reduced the cost of entries by a significant amount for several years and so what they have done is completely improper. The CMRA Board is asking that they be allowed to gain the benefits of being a non-profit, but not have to follow the rules for non-profits. This is just wrong, plain and simple.

I have attached the filing.
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Wow, straight from the Department of No One Gives a Fock.

auminer · May 13, 2018

rd49 said: ↑

Wow, straight from the Department of No One Gives a Fock.
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Yet, strangely, it's three pages, when 'toe's latest "what's my move" can't manage a decent 2....

studio819 · May 13, 2018

Pneumatico Delle Vittorie said: ↑

Wait what makes you think Texans know anything about the Red Wings and octopus flinging?
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Texan that knows very well about the octopi and the Red Wings here.

studio819 · May 13, 2018

CMRA and WMRRA seem to be spending a lot of money and time dealing with court stuff lately. Can't be good for the clubs. Sad to see.

ToofPic · May 13, 2018

MELK-MAN · May 13, 2018

whatdayaknow... a motorcycle racing related thread

Canadian Bacon · May 13, 2018

Ducti89 said: ↑

Second row. Still close enough to the ice to throw an octopus onto it.
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The bigger ones fly better, you get more leverage and release speed. Best one ever, we were coming up from the Olympia room about 2min into 2nd period, my buddy says duck, so I did. Damn thing smacked a rather over dressed classy 50 something lady right in the back of the head. I felt a bit bad but I didn’t throw the damn thing. I didn’t even spill my drinks.

ToofPic · May 13, 2018

Johnny B · May 13, 2018

studio819 said: ↑

Texan that knows very well about the octopi and the Red Wings here.
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Same up in New England. I even got the gnome.

Gorilla George · May 14, 2018

ToofPic said: ↑

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Oh damn that might be the funniest shit ive ever seen. I lost it.

Gorilla George · May 14, 2018

CRRC93 said: ↑

After watching the progression of the CMRA lawsuit and the way the CMRA Board acted when they were asked to examine the books, AS REQUIRED BY LAW FOR ANY NON-PROFIT, I decided to ask myself. I have no axe to grind and have never met Mr. Inge (if you put him in a lineup, I could not tell you which was him), but I do know that the law requires, in exchange for the benefits granted to non-profits, that they be transparent. Instead of just opening the books, the CMRA Board attacked Mr. Inge, which is exactly as you would expect IF THEY WERE GUILTY.

So I asked to see the books and was directed to one of the club's attorneys and was told how difficult it would be to collect all the info I had asked for, implying, falsely, that the information did not exist in digital form. At this point I noted that all of that info must have been collected as part of the suit and that I just wanted whatever they had put together for that case.

At this point they conceded that yes the information was in digital form, but they would have to ask the judge overseeing the case. That, of course, was not what they did and instead they asked the judge to prohibit examination of the information until the case was settled. In other words, they asked the judge to circumvent the law and keep me from getting the info the law says I am entitled to.

The latest on the case is that Mr. Inge, who was improperly ejected from the club, does not have "standing" and so they hoped the whole thing would go away WITHOUT ANY EXAMINATION OF THE BOOKS.

I, however, do have "standing" and so the case will go forward and at some point we will learn exactly what the story is, as far as the club's books.

Finally, the CMRA Board has a responsibility to the membership to obey the law and to control costs. The amount of money the Board has squandered fighting to keep the club's books secret, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW REGARDING NON-PROFITS, could have reduced the cost of entries by a significant amount for several years and so what they have done is completely improper. The CMRA Board is asking that they be allowed to gain the benefits of being a non-profit, but not have to follow the rules for non-profits. This is just wrong, plain and simple.

I have attached the filing.
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Canadian Bacon · May 14, 2018

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Didn’t know they had video cameras way back when when mongo was a little mongo. Or is that current dave k? Hard to tell.

Canadian Bacon · May 14, 2018

studio819 said: ↑

CMRA and WMRRA seem to be spending a lot of money and time dealing with court stuff lately. Can't be good for the clubs. Sad to see.
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Seems like a viscous cycle. They are accused of pissing away money but have to piss away a lot more to prove if they are guilty of what they are accused of.

worthless · May 14, 2018

brex said: ↑

Why not add this to the dead lawyer thread?
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Perhaps because the first resulted in no dead lawyers. Maybe we'll have more luck with this one.

Sweatypants · May 14, 2018

wasn't the guy from that other thread a pissed off lawyer with time on his hands? was he just a bad lawyer or why does anyone else think they have some magical smoking gun that the other dude couldn't think of in his brain that whole time? or maybe i got that wrong...

HPPT · May 14, 2018

Chaotic said: ↑

Oh damn that might be the funniest shit ive ever seen. I lost it.
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Shit's at least 10 years old.

Mongo · May 14, 2018

panthercity said: ↑

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Yeah but I think he's been around long enough you probably raced against him

ryoung57 · May 14, 2018

Fonda Dix said: ↑

I think the original suit was dismissed because the plaintiff did not have standing (not a member). It appears as though someone WITH standing has stepped into the breach.
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So if they can cancel the membership of anyone who they don't like, how can anyone sue them to see the books?

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