MotoGP | Gran Premio Motul de la República Argentina| 06 Apr - 08 Apr | 2018

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  1. crashman

    crashman Grumpy old man

    I gotta say I am with Cal on that but like most times he could have phrased it a bit better. It is pretty sad when the soap opera bullshit takes precedence over the race results.
     
    crashman, Apr 11, 2018
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  2. CB186

    CB186 go f@ck yourself

    If Cal would simply get it through his head that he's a side show act, an occasional factor, a long shot at best to be a player in the championship results, then he wouldn't be so upset when this happens.
     
    CB186, Apr 11, 2018
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  3. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Tray would occasionally be caught out with no chance to check up or avoid the slower rider. He did not punt just to punt and get through quicker - yes, I looked at where each incident happened and why. If Tray were in the situation with Rossi he'd have rolled out of it and passed later.
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
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  4. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I think a large part of that is MM is divebombing the corners whether someone else is there or not, it's just how he rides and holy shit does it work :D
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
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  5. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    You do whatever it takes so long as it doesn't hurt other riders.

    That hasn't changed any. Pushing the envelope is good. Pushing it and chancing hurting people is bad.
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
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  6. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I've been wondering if the people posting those realize that when they have to go back that far and see Rossi on different bikes that they're kind of proving the opposite of the point they want to make :D
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
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  7. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I don't have a favorite rider. I have said Rossi made dangerous moves. I am saying MM made dangerous moves. MM showed last weekend that he is absolutely more dangerous than Rossi has ever been in his career. He needs a reality check.

    Has nothing to do with Rossi. Has nothing to do with any single incident. It is the entire race as a whole.

    I truly don't get how people can get excited about one riders crashing another out. Laughing at a rider being crashed out because you don't like them is a little sick.
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
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  8. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    I'm trying to figure this one out too - when Rossi has fucked up and taken someone out, who was praising him? I sure as hell wouldn't be. Yet the Rossi haters are out in full force saying it happens every time...
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
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  9. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    You're obviously not even reading this thread...
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
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  10. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    Who said I didn't like Rossi?
     
    600 dbl are, Apr 11, 2018
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  11. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Once a rider is hitting you, you are allowed to push them off of you with your leg. That is not remotely the same as booting someone off a bike.

    I'm still lost as how that incident is being discussed as if Rossi did something wrong there. There's nothing to discuss. The two aren't remotely the same.
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
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  12. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    Your post :D
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
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  13. 600 dbl are

    600 dbl are Shake Zoola the mic rula

    Don't complain about others not reading the thread when you apparently can't either ;)
     
    600 dbl are, Apr 11, 2018
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  14. mattology

    mattology Well-Known Member

    you probably also think the plane will stay put and not take off
     
    mattology, Apr 11, 2018
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  15. Gorilla George

    Gorilla George WIN

    I was thinking the same thing. When someone has been racing full time for well over 2 decades, and you have to go back 12 years to an incident to make a point, it doesn’t hold any merit.

    I can’t understand people defending MM. He had been doing this shit for years. He constantly punted people in Moto2 also, when there was no need, he was the faster rider.

    Just the fact that these discussions and comments about him keep popping up says something. Where are the similar comments/threads about Rea, Davies, Pedrosa, Rossi, Hayes, Boobie, Shakey, etc?

    At some point the common denominator has to be considered.
     
    Gorilla George, Apr 11, 2018
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  16. badmoon692008

    badmoon692008 Well-Known Member

    "If you have to bring up history it doesn't prove your point"
    ....
    "Here's some history to prove my point"
    :Poke:
     
    badmoon692008, Apr 11, 2018
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  17. HPPT

    HPPT !!!

    First of all, your mama's French.

    If anyone used Uccios as a noun, in plural form anywhere on the Internet before this thread, I humbly apologize for inadvertently plagiarizing them. But you will have to show me an earlier instance to prove your case. :D

    I didn't mean for the chin thing to turn into a nickname. It was just a description that literally came up as I was writing that sentence.
    I think that Rossi is getting some pushback because he's a whiny hypocrite. Not because he's as reckless as Marquez. He clearly is not.
    The kid might be a lot of things, but whiner is not one of them. He is smart enough to know that there is too much video him hitting people to complain about the way others ride. Rossi, on the other hand, doesn't get that.
    Marquez will calm down to by the time he's 38 too. :D
     
    HPPT, Apr 11, 2018
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  18. Sweatypants

    Sweatypants I am so smart! S-M-R-T... I mean S-M-A-R-T!

    let's examine the replay one more time. i did some screen caps to help you guys...








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    Sweatypants, Apr 11, 2018
    #798
    SuddenBraking, badmoon692008, Dieselboy and 4 others like this.
  19. CB186

    CB186 go f@ck yourself

    I'm not sure what Rossi is trying to accomplish, besides maybe head games. MM is certainly not like any other racer he has "fought" with. I'm sure he knows an on track, knock down battle wont work in his favor. MM is too crazy to back down, and Rossi is old enough to know he doesn't want to get hurt.

    I'm honestly waiting for the day that MM's antics gets someone seriously hurt. Whether that's himself or someone else, I'm not sure.

    When watching the race on Sunday, as soon as he got the ride through and was so much faster than everyone else, the GF and I were both expecting fireworks. He didn't disappoint.
     
    CB186, Apr 11, 2018
    #799
  20. Mongo

    Mongo Administrator

    If he lasts that long. :D Overall though Rossi never rode like MM is/has. Yeah he's got skeletons in his closet but he was never like this.
     
    Mongo, Apr 11, 2018
    #800
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