Name this helmet. And then make sure you don't buy it.

If I remember right Arai doesn't really care about the testing, they just care how they do it real world crashes. I like that.

 

100% agree. I wasn't speaking of $40 helmets or $200 Sedici ones at cycle gear. It's the reason I used Arai as the example and one reason that I would happily place my melon in any Arai helmet. A helmet designed for racing is totally different from a helmet designed for the street. Take AGV, I have a K3SV that I bought for the street and a Pista and that's used for the track. Why? Because the Pista and is designed for it. Not just aero and flow, but safety at track speeds.

What I was getting at is that if you're looking at price to determine the factor of safety, that's the wrong way to look at it and one of the reasons that I like Arai, they don't sell "cheap" helmets. Some cost less, but that because of the features, not safety.

 

Curious, what is WERAs standard for helmet certs. I assume SNELL, but I haven't read a rule book in several years...can't recall.

 

Years ago they were so happy to get one of mine back that they replaced it with a new and better one for free.

 

IIRC didn't Motorcyclist or Cycle World do a comprehensive test on helmets a WHILE back? Could be like 15 years ago, but it was a pretty legit test of all the major and minor brands.

I wanna say that there was a couple no-name kids that scored pretty well among the SHOEI and ARAI and AGV lids of the time. But one of the biggest factors was, and always WILL be (OBVIOUSLY) is fit to your head. I can't wear an HJC or AGV due to my melon shape, but SHOEI and ARAI have always fit me good.

I bring up that old helmet test because I don't think I've seen a test like that since. It's time for a new one. I'm sure someone can find that old test and use it as a blueprint for a new comparo.

 

And this is why I look at SHARP test results, they aren't pass / fail they actually show how much energy transfers at different impact points so you can quantitatively compare helmets.

 

That helmet may have "done the job," but maybe he would remember the crash if he had a better one.

 

He did remember. No concussion at all. Even told me target fixated right before going down. He just doesn't know what he hit.

 

Anyone who thinks that helmet isn't a POS, needs a brain scan already.

 

POS? yes
Unsafe for racing application? yes
The thing that prevented this thread from being another RIP rider thread? yes

 

It's certainly much more POS'y since clubbing a solid object at 40mph...

 

This is a difficult question to answer. I ran through those thoughts after I had a nice 50mph highside. From first hand reports I got some pretty good air before hitting the ground. I don't know if I ever got knocked out, but I lost two hours of memory.

I had a brand new Scorpion Exo 410 which fit my head nice and snug. Would an Arai or similar made any difference? I don't know. At some point hitting your head that hard is going to have consequences no matter what you're wearing. But if there's a demonstrable difference between a scorpion and Arai, then I'll happily order the latter.

Mongo, you mentioned having a big sample size in your experience. Does scorpion fall into the crap category?

 

RoadRacing World? They did a survey about that long ago. And, yeah, Arai and Shoei topped the billing with AGV a not too distant third.
I think the main focus was on concussions. IIRC, the Shoei had the least, by one, over the Arai. The other parameters, I don't remember.

 

I'd say that helmet was 100% successful 100% of the time it was required to protect someone's squash.