JenningsGP DEC. 29, 30, 31

[HD1911]

Anyone gonna be there? I hope it's not too late for me to sign up! I plan on calling tomorrow morning and reserving a spot for the weekend. Looking to do my first ever trackday!!!


Any advice (hold the noob bashing) would be appreciated! :)

[georgiadawg]

Any advice (hold the noob bashing) would be appreciated! :)

have fun and don't crash....Your not going to set the track record so don't even try.

[gix]

go over to http://www.jenningsgp.com/forum
there are many people there that will gladly help you. read the post on how they run the day for new riders. It will give you the low down. Talk to SpeedyTide and Pitboy...im sure they will hold you hand and make sure you are safe.

[HD1911]

have fun and don't crash....Your not going to set the track record so don't even try. Haha i know, i see the record is like 1:14 set by Geoff May. I have also done my research and know that 1:30s or faster @ Jennings is considered EXPERT. I not going for fun, strictly for business, to get faster and get my feet wet, so that when i race WERA Novice this year, i can feel comfortable and do well. Thanks bro!






go over to http://www.jenningsgp.com/forum
there are many people there that will gladly help you. read the post on how they run the day for new riders. It will give you the low down. Talk to SpeedyTide and Pitboy...im sure they will hold you hand and make sure you are safe.
Yeah man, i actually joined on there 2 days ago! So SpeedyTide and Pitboy huh? Are they Control riders or something?

[gix]

yea they are instructors/control riders

[PitBoy]

Yeah, dont sweat it, we are there to help and will pull you around at a pace you are comfortable with. We will follow you for a few laps and see how you are doing, then we'll pull you in go over a few changes and then pull you around behind us. As you skill level increases and confidence increases we will get faster and thus so will you. Dont expect anything your first time out besides taking your bike and yourself back home in the same shape you arrived in.

[HD1911]

Yeah, dont sweat it, we are there to help and will pull you around at a pace you are comfortable with. We will follow you for a few laps and see how you are doing, then we'll pull you in go over a few changes and then pull you around behind us. As you skill level increases and confidence increases we will get faster and thus so will you. Dont expect anything your first time out besides taking your bike and yourself back home in the same shape you arrived in.


That sounds cool, how long does it usually take to learn/get comfortable with the Race line?

Are you gonna be there then? (dec. 29-31)

[gix]

the learning curve is different for everyone.. ive seen people never get out off novice..ive also seen people bump to expert the first day

[HD1911]

the learning curve is different for everyone.. ive seen people never get out off novice..ive also seen people bump to expert the first day


Cool man. Who can i ask to help me setup my suspension for that track? I have no clue where my clickers should be set at, and the ride height etc.

[gix]

that i cant answer. you will have to ask pitboy. im in california now. i used to be an instructor there but i havent been there since july so im not sure whos around. hooters suzuki used to be out there every track day...but i have heard they are no longer doing that. Pitboy? some insight please =)

[418]

Cool man. Who can i ask to help me setup my suspension for that track? I have no clue where my clickers should be set at, and the ride height etc.


Your first ever trackday you don't need to be worrying about your suspension.

Especially on something like a brand new R1.

[GBAUTO]

i'll be there on the 31st. i think that the biggest thing to work on will be throttle control on the liter bike-jennings has some tight turns that are notorious for spitting ham fisted riders off. as far as what to expect...jennings in late december could freezing or summer like, bone dry or monsoon wet(in my best forrest gump voice)-jennings is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get...best advice would be to learn the track and the bike and proceed from there-have fun.

[HD1911]

Cool guys, I appreciate the insight.

418- I am worried about the suspension, especially the rear for low speeds, i want the rear to hook up and dig in, something it hasn't been doing.

*I am not really new to riding, just never been on a track before. For all i know, i might be the most Squid out there, who knows? But i do plan on taking Trackdays and WERA Racing very seriously. This is my life. It's what i live for. Everything else is second (except for God).

[418]

Well, I'll tell you right now a R1 is going to be hard work around Jennings. My '03 surely was.

I would leave the suspension damping stock and just set up the pre-load yourself. Then if you're not happy with that, go to a suspension expert.

Also tires is a big deal here. I hope you have a brand new set of trackday tires ready. Anything with that much power will go through rear tires like crazy.

[PitBoy]

Like 418 said, your suspension is fine the way it is. I know guys on stock GSXR's doing in the low 20's (blackbeener) out there without an issue. What you want to do is just start learning the track. I know you are eager but I will tell you, I've ridden there every track day for a year and still am learning better and faster lines around the track. Just make sure you come out there with good rubber (preferably new rubber) and thats about it. My opinion, is get a set of Pirelli Super Corsa's. I know we are going to hear a lot of debate about different tire brands but the fact is most people agree that the Pirelli's are the most predictable, especially for a new person who isn't sure what it feels like to slide. They will give you warning when you are pushing them too hard where michelins dont. Enjoy yourself, and look me up. I will be there both sat and sun and will be located in the VIP section next to the track shop. If you go ahead and introduce yourself I will make sure we spend some time on the track and get you comfortable with everything. You'll love it, and take your time with the racing. Its a whole different ballgame when there are other riders actually trying to keep you from passing and you're playing chicken coming into turn 1. Learn the track, get some seat time and race when you are comfortable.

[HD1911]

Alrite guys, good info. Lets talk tires, i Have a used set of Pirelli Diablo Supercorsas being GIVEN to me (120 & 190/55) for this trackday we speak of...will this work? I have been running on 190/50 2CT's for quite some time, and the R1 will get kinda sketchy with these (more so the rear than the front). I have only done very aggressive street riding so far, and these tires have not been sticky enough. They, along with my R1, have taught me valuable throttle control! I have experienced plenty of times, the rear end stepping out (kinda fun sometimes/totally scary other times lol)

I guess what I'm worried about, is having my clickers set all wrong, running a taller tire in the rear, and have never run Pirelli DiabloSupercorsa's (or any DOT tire).

And when you guys say preload height or whatever...is that the same thing as Rider/Race Sag in Motocross? Because my Shock only has 1-9 clicks having to do with the firmess (preload) of the shock. Are we talking moving the forks up through the triple clamps or what?


***Pitboy, my name is John. I guarantee you that 'YOU' will be the first person i look for when im there. I'd like to swap numbers and talk to you on the phone sometime before then if thats cool.

Thanks for everything guys, sorry if im talking your heads off, but this is how i learn, i guess. I ask a shitload of questions.

This Forum is the best i have ever been on. All those other Yamaha this&that forums are mostly about getting attention and looking cool and stuff. I can actually learn shit on here from dudes who aren't posers

[El Skwid!]

You could jump over to sportrider.com or the like for suggested suspension settings.
If you have no idea of what does what, set the clickers in the middle, i.e. 5 of 1-9.
Do a search for 'sag' & find several 'how-to's'.
You'll be too busy to worry about suspension settings.

[PitBoy]

The tires you get depending on the life of them should be fine. Also, Leon will be at the track that weekend I believe. He is the Southeast Pirelli Vendor and can hook you up with some additional tires if you need some. Feel free to give me a call if you like but we'll cover everything you need to know in our riders meeting at Jennings and then starts the 1 on 1. Take is slow and try to work on one thing at a time and you'll have a blast. (863)660-6628 is my cell. I run my own business so I am in and out of meetings throughout the day, if I dont answer right away leave a message and I will get back with you.

Take care, see you at the track.
Ben

[HD1911]

^^^Thanks Ben!

[steeltoe]

Have you watched the Melka vid yet? It will at least give you an idea of the flow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1NGBC9x2hw

[SpeedyTide]

Like others have noted....come and have fun!!

Be patient! Newbie on a 1k can = heartache! :down:

Not sure if I'm riding that weekend or not, but Pitboy and other control riders will definitely be there! Listen & learn.

:up:

FYI....JGP currently has no "regular" vendors that do suspension adjustments.

[HD1911]

Have you watched the Melka vid yet? It will at least give you an idea of the flow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1NGBC9x2hw

Thanks man! :up:


Who's Melka Man btw?

[HD1911]

Like others have noted....come and have fun!!

Be patient! Newbie on a 1k can = heartache! :down:

Not sure if I'm riding that weekend or not, but Pitboy and other control riders will definitely be there! Listen & learn.

:up:

FYI....JGP currently has no "regular" vendors that do suspension adjustments.


Cool, i have already talked to Ben & Mike Q., hopefully I will learn alot from them!
Yeah, i guess i will have to have patience, Im just getting really excited lol :cool:

[scooper750]

Hey HD1911, you may be in luck. I believe Eric from GMD computrack is supposed to be there that weekend. Not sure if that's changed though. I don't know if he's there for track support, but I know he (or his crew) will be there to pickup a couple bikes (My bike is supposed to be one of them).

[d-wire]

Thanks man! :up:


Who's Melka Man btw?


one of the fast locals. Just pay close attention at the riders meeting, specially to the pit in and pit out procedure's and have fun:up:

Im hoping to make it up that weekend. See ya there

[HD1911]

Hey HD1911, you may be in luck. I believe Eric from GMD computrack is supposed to be there that weekend. Not sure if that's changed though. I don't know if he's there for track support, but I know he (or his crew) will be there to pickup a couple bikes (My bike is supposed to be one of them).

Whats GMD Computrack? is that suspension setup or somethin? Dude, i hope he can pick my bike too, that would be great!

[HD1911]

one of the fast locals. Just pay close attention at the riders meeting, specially to the pit in and pit out procedure's and have fun:up:

Im hoping to make it up that weekend. See ya there

Whats your name sir? My name is JOHN :up:

[scooper750]

Don't be bashful D-Wire. D-Wire flies out there himself.

Hey Sean, may come see you that weekend to see what kind of take-offs you have.

[PitBoy]

Dwire is stupid fast out there with a 17 flat last time I was there. Sean, you and Robby planning on being there that weekend?

GMD Computrak is a network suspension service. I am assuming you mean Eric is coming from GMD Ft. Lauderdale? If he's not there on a private contract with someone he should be able to help you get your suspension setup and even make upgrades if you are ready to do them. Give Eric a call at 954-786-9746 he'll take good care of you.

[d-wire]

thanks guys........

John, my name is sean. I'll be on some white r6's or maybe somethin different by then.HMMmm Stop by and say hi . Gmd is really good with getting your bike sorted, but I'd just ride it until it does something you don't like. Pitboy, speedy and those guys do a real good job with the control stuff. Scooper, I should have plenty of rubber, I think we are doing a private day between now and the new years weekend as well, so. ......I should have tires

[fentos]

Myself and two others will be coming from East TN to ride Sunday and Monday. It will be my first time at Jennings (but not my first track day). I've been looking forward to running at this track for quite some time. Hope to meet some of you guys there!

[HD1911]

You guys recommend staying in any certain Hotel? (close to the track) I don't wanna spend more than $75 a nite really, something around $50 to $60 would be preferred.

[GBAUTO]

You guys recommend staying in any certain Hotel? (close to the track) I don't wanna spend more than $75 a nite really, something around $50 to $60 would be preferred.

days inn-lake park, ga. should fit the bill. tell them that you are riding at jennings and you may get a discount.

[HD1911]

days inn-lake park, ga. should fit the bill. tell them that you are riding at jennings and you may get a discount.

Thanks man! I will make reservations for the Days Inn then :up:
What's your name sir?

[GBAUTO]

Thanks man! I will make reservations for the Days Inn then :up:
What's your name sir?

my name is gary-i'm the ogre sized fellow on a silver and black sv1000. if you're there on new years eve look me up.

[pucksdown]

I'm considering riding for the first time there on my 1000. Is there any banking to the turns or are they all flat?

[pucksdown]

I hope that I can drag someone else's bike down to split the high travel cost. That and a low chance of rain and I'll be there.

[d-wire]

very flat

[GBAUTO]

I'm considering riding for the first time there on my 1000. Is there any banking to the turns or are they all flat?

well, most of the turns have high banks but they are not paved and a bit off the racing line:moon: other than that it's flat...

[otistillman]

days inn-lake park, ga. should fit the bill. tell them that you are riding at jennings and you may get a discount.

no dis respect, but I would spend the extra cash for the Hamilton. I've stayed at the Days Inn and two words . . . . roach motel.

Then just recently,(as in two weeks ago) a buddy of mine stayed there and got the same experience.

[HD1911]

no dis respect, but I would spend the extra cash for the Hamilton. I've stayed at the Days Inn and two words . . . . roach motel.

Then just recently,(as in two weeks ago) a buddy of mine stayed there and got the same experience.

How much is the Hamilton? And how far from the track?

[bkkruser]

How much is the Hamilton? And how far from the track?
i cant anwser that one. a nice hotel is the travel lodge at exit 5 in ga. its 46 double for a night. about 12 miles from the track. also next to some decent food stops .most area motels give a track discount.word to the wise most of the crashes at jennings occur in the first 2 runs of the day. i suppose cold tires and to much adreneline. have fun :beer:

[otistillman]

How much is the Hamilton? And how far from the track?

$99 a night. Exit 5. It's next to Cracker Barrel, Pizza Hut. Across the street from Days Inn.

[mq105]

Camping/sleeping in trailer/tent is free! Get a small space heater and you're good. Two nights at a motel = tires! :up:

[SpeedyTide]

Camping/sleeping in trailer/tent is free! Get a small space heater and you're good. Two nights at a motel = tires! :up:

...or a Monday trackday.
... fuel for bike & truck!
... etc.

:D

[HD1911]

^^^ you guys bring up a valid point. But i don't have a generator to power anything, and i don't have a tent :(

Meh, me and my buddy are splitting the costs in half so it shouldn't be too bad.

[SpeedyTide]

^^^ you guys bring up a valid point. But i don't have a generator to power anything, and i don't have a tent :(

Meh, me and my buddy are splitting the costs in half so it shouldn't be too bad.
The pits have power! :D for FREE!!! Well...they don't cost any "extra" unless you require 30amp service or more. :wow: Tent don't cost much neither! :up: ....just a thought! :Poke:

[PitBoy]

Weather is starting to get nice again so a good sleeping bag might do it. I remember the old days when I used to pay for hotel rooms :) now I just sleep in the dirt to be able to afford tires :)

j/k, but camping out is nice so you can sleep in a bit longer in the morning. BTW, nice avatar.....

[HD1911]

^^^Is there bathrooms/showers at the track?

[gix]

^^^Is there bathrooms/showers at the track?

yup

[bkkruser]

^^^Is there bathrooms/showers at the track?and they keep them very clean and tidy:up: camping is free,its a great place. pissed i have to work or id be there for sure.:beer:

[pucksdown]

Will the alligator not come visit you in the middle of the night?

[HD1911]

Will the alligator not come visit you in the middle of the night?

Is this really a part of Florida that has alligators? Don't BS

[pucksdown]

I thought that there is supposed to be a medium size one in the pond on the property. Keeps the snake and rat population down. Happy camping!

[gix]

used to have a 7 footer that would sun itself in the sand on the inside of turn 1 while bikes were on track. a little guy in 6 that used the track to gets its sun.

[PitBoy]

Actually I've never had a problem with the gators but we did have an issue one night with a Florida Panther. Apparently it was a smaller one and got into it with the track cat over some meow mix :) It ran off and we've never had an issue again.

[gix]

waldo?

[bkkruser]

Will the alligator not come visit you in the middle of the night?
actual no. gators spend there time at night in the water its to cold to come out on land this time of year down here you might not find 50 at nights cold but gators do

[fast to nowhere]

Yeah, dont sweat it, we are there to help and will pull you around at a pace you are comfortable with. We will follow you for a few laps and see how you are doing, then we'll pull you in go over a few changes and then pull you around behind us. As you skill level increases and confidence increases we will get faster and thus so will you. Dont expect anything your first time out besides taking your bike and yourself back home in the same shape you arrived in.

Pitboy are you going to be there on the 29th and 30th?
I am wanting to get some pointers and get you to help me shave off some time.

[HD1911]

Damn, i hope i don't encounter any wildlife on the track, that would suck lol!

Who else is soo excited about this coming trackday, that they can't sleep at nite? Or focus during the day lol?

I got to thinking about it being my first time on a track evar, im on a 1000, and aren't most ppl on 600's? So if there are fast ass doods on 600's that are gonna make me look stupid, what are the fast ass doods on 1000s gonna make me feel like?

And someone said earlier in the thread that 1000s get bucked all the time @Jennings in tight turns...im getting scared lol

[GBAUTO]

ok-you are thinking about this WAY to much... just go in with an open mind and leave your ego at the gate-you'll have a blast.

[HD1911]

ok-you are thinking about this WAY to much... just go in with an open mind and leave your ego at the gate-you'll have a blast.

Sorry i was just in a really good mood earlier, playing Tiger Woods 08 for XBOX360 :cool: , and kept thinkin bout riding!

Your right, i will go in with an open mind and leave my ego at the gate. Thanks for that advice :up:

This is just the most excited i have ever been in my life! And its still a week & a half away :(

[SpeedyTide]

waldo?

Yup!

[SpeedyTide]

ok-you are thinking about this WAY to much... just go in with an open mind and leave your ego at the gate-you'll have a blast.

:stupid:

It's your first time. Just go and have fun, and ride within your limits. Get too ansy...and you'll find yourself hitching a ride back to the pits with the crash truck.

Patience!

600's get around JGP as fast as the 1000's. Doesn't matter if a scooter passes you....if so, let 'em go and keep riding YOUR pace. Don't get caught up in what the other's are doing. Talk with the Control Riders frequently.

DO NOT get greedy with the throttle....'specially on that 1000! ;) Nice & smooth!!

:beer:

[HD1911]

:stupid:

It's your first time. Just go and have fun, and ride within your limits. Get too ansy...and you'll find yourself hitching a ride back to the pits with the crash truck.

Patience!

600's get around JGP as fast as the 1000's. Doesn't matter if a scooter passes you....if so, let 'em go and keep riding YOUR pace. Don't get caught up in what the other's are doing. Talk with the Control Riders frequently.

DO NOT get greedy with the throttle....'specially on that 1000! ;)

:beer:



Rodger

[WERA82]

FYI,
There is a two day Ed Bargy Race School down there Dec 29-30 at Jennings that weekend. You might want to consider that if you really think you are going to race. You have to take a race approved school to become a provisional novice to race in WERA. Ed's course is quite comprehensive and you will learn quite a bit more than you would just riding around on a track day.

Just something to consider....

[HD1911]

FYI,
There is a two day Ed Bargy Race School down there Dec 29-30 at Jennings that weekend. You might want to consider that if you really think you are going to race. You have to take a race approved school to become a provisional novice to race in WERA. Ed's course is quite comprehensive and you will learn quite a bit more than you would just riding around on a track day.

Just something to consider....


Hey thanks!, i appreciate the advice and concern :up:


* I have already called Ed Bargy and spoke to him on the phone. I know for a FACT i will be racing WERA this year, and i am well aware of the school. You gotta look at it from my point of view: 2 days of open track practice learning from Pitboy (& various others) @ a cost of $250 for my first ever time on the track....or $700 for a 2 day race school. Right now i don't have the funds for the school, so that will have to wait till next month. That still gives me time to be at the Barber race in March, god willing.

[WERA82]

Hey thanks!, i appreciate the advice and concern :up:


* I have already called Ed Bargy and spoke to him on the phone. I know for a FACT i will be racing WERA this year, and i am well aware of the school. You gotta look at it from my point of view: 2 days of open track practice learning from Pitboy (& various others) @ a cost of $250 for my first ever time on the track....or $700 for a 2 day race school. Right now i don't have the funds for the school, so that will have to wait till next month. That still gives me time to be at the Barber race in March, god willing.

I understand. I know where you're coming from. Just throwing it out there in case you didn't know about it....

[HD1911]

I understand. I know where you're coming from. Just throwing it out there in case you didn't know about it....

Nah hey like i said, i do appreciate it! :up:

[stickboy274]

I'll be down for the 29/30 hanging out and changing tires. Look for a Gieco trailer that has Bridgestone banners hangng off of it.

[HD1911]

I'll be down for the 29/30 hanging out and changing tires. Look for a Gieco trailer that has Bridgestone banners hangng off of it.

I know your the Bridgestone guy, but will you mount Pirelli's on my rims? And for how much?

*I'll be there saturday morning at around 7am i guess, can you do it before the rider's meeting? or how exactly does that work? Because the tires that are mounted on my bike now are showing cords

[PitBoy]

There is a tire guy there at the track that can mount tires if you are bring them with you. Cost is $10/ea. Also if you get tires from one of the venders they can mount them as well.

[HD1911]

There is a tire guy there at the track that can mount tires if you are bring them with you. Cost is $10/ea. Also if you get tires from one of the venders they can mount them as well.

Thanks Ben :up:

Are they gonna be there early Sat morning before the rider's meeting so i can get them mounted?

[stickboy274]

Yup, I can get them mounted up for you early. $10 a tire, and Leon from Pirelli will be there also.

[HD1911]

Yup, I can get them mounted up for you early. $10 a tire, and Leon from Pirelli will be there also.

Cool dood, thanks

[stickboy274]

Anytime

[El Skwid!]

Geico trailer?
Is this a cross branding thing? Will they pay contingency in '08?
god helps guys get on track? Does he pay contingency?

[stickboy274]

It says Geico because it's too cole to remove the wrap right now.

Lori has an idea about how to make it look, but I have to check with my sticker dood about it before I commit.

[phishstyx]

I recently did my first trackday back in October there and everyone at that track is great. Like everyone says, don't try and break any records, just go there and have fun. I'll be back there on the 30/31 so stop and say hi. I'll be the guy with a bright neon green/yello F2. You can't miss it. Have fun man, that's the most important thing. Oh yeah and watch all of the other classes, cause you learn a lot about lines, and feel free to talk to people there. I did not meet one person not willing to lend a hand.

[stickboy274]

F2?! You need to get racng with us. I run an F3 in V7 mw and hw.

Drop by if you have any questions on your bike. I've been racing mine since '02 and racing bikes that used f2 parts sine 95.

[phishstyx]

This will be my first time on the bike. I bought it about a month ago for 400 bucks and fixed it up. If you have an F3 there I'll be by you asking a bunch of questions. See ya then.

[stickboy274]

I know a little about them. I even won some races and maybe a championship or 6 on mine. Come by and talk to me

[Sevenfiddy]

Hoping to get down there this March. Been watching the Melka video on youtube to learn the track and good lines.

[ToddClark]

2 days of open track practice learning from Pitboy (& various others)
As Ed Bargy says, "just remember, theres alot of BAD information from guys giving information at trackdays". Its not always the correct information.

[stickboy274]

Your talking about me, arent you?:moon:

[PitBoy]

hmmmm......almost seems to be directed at me, relax we aren't going to be backing it into T1 or trail braking up the apex. I've been to a number of schools including most recently Pridmore's. Its not my first rodeo....

[stickboy274]

I trail brake way in there. I let off after my knee hits, but I have long legs.

Mean Todd

[ToddClark]

hmmmm......almost seems to be directed at me, relax we aren't going to be backing it into T1 or trail braking up the apex. I've been to a number of schools including most recently Pridmore's. Its not my first rodeo....
LOL, no, its not directed at you or anyone in particular. Been to Bargy's school? He says that quote up there EVERYTIME.

[stickboy274]

I still think your picking on me and my old bike:Poke:

[ToddClark]

I still think your picking on me and my old bike:Poke:
now why would i pick on someone and their old bike when i've been passed by said old bike! :eek:

[stickboy274]

Because you like to make fun of me, and you know I'll do the same for you.

[2Fer]

now why would i pick on someone and their old bike when i've been passed by said old bike! :eek:

yes nothing like getting passed by Derek and his 10 year old bike when you are a newish R6 with a fair amount of work done it it. At least he didn't pull me at all from T14-T3 at Jennings after he passed me in 7 or 8.

[stickboy274]

I'll work on the bike so it does better through there. Maybe someday I can get more than 92 HP out of it

[2Fer]

yeah and my R6 probably weighs in a good 30 pounds less, and has 30 or so more HP, and you still came by me like I was in reverse, and you say you have lost like 5 seconds at Jennings so that makes me feel even worse.

[2Fer]

maybe I should just build a vintage like Stumpy and come out and play

[stickboy274]

Vintage is a good place to play.

I mneed to get back to my pace. It's bothering me that I have slowed down. I'll start riding my mountain bike again. Between that and all the dirtbiking I'm doing, I should be able to get back up to speed. I'll play at some trackdays and talk to Ed some more to get it back.

[2Fer]

Im sure if you raced/rode more instead of selling them fancy tires you got, you would get it back also :Poke: :beer: :D

[2Fer]

speaking of racing, you think you can, or will want to do some endurance with me in 08?

[PitBoy]

I dont wish to start anything and to be honest I understand completely where Ed is coming from, I once had a guy tell me to run 10w/30 motor oil in my forks who was sporting some white plates so I realize there is a lot of misinformation out there. But on the other hand a broad statement like that lumps in individuals like me who donate their time, tires, fuel and at times bikes to help new people for the pure love of the sport. We dont get paid for riding or helping out we simply get free track time which just for the record doesn't even BEGIN to cover a days worth of tires, fuel, and so on. I personally have been through 2 bikes and most recently a very nice stay at Valdosta medical center as a result of control riding. We are their for the new people who are just starting out and are simply trying to return the favor to the sport for those who took the time with us in the beginning. When these guys get to a point where they are beyond any further help from us we gladly step back and tell them its time to invest in a actual school like Bargy's. Again, not wishing to start a debate just want to set the record straight.

[418]

I dont wish to start anything and to be honest I understand completely where Ed is coming from, I once had a guy tell me to run 10w/30 motor oil in my forks who was sporting some white plates so I realize there is a lot of misinformation out there. But on the other hand a broad statement like that lumps in individuals like me who donate their time, tires, fuel and at times bikes to help new people for the pure love of the sport. We dont get paid for riding or helping out we simply get free track time which just for the record doesn't even BEGIN to cover a days worth of tires, fuel, and so on. I personally have been through 2 bikes and most recently a very nice stay at Valdosta medical center as a result of control riding. We are their for the new people who are just starting out and are simply trying to return the favor to the sport for those who took the time with us in the beginning. When these guys get to a point where they are beyond any further help from us we gladly step back and tell them its time to invest in a actual school like Bargy's. Again, not wishing to start a debate just want to set the record straight.


Dude, I think you're preaching to the choir here.

Todd Clark is a instructor and a resident fast old guy to boot.

[WERA82]

I dont wish to start anything and to be honest I understand completely where Ed is coming from, I once had a guy tell me to run 10w/30 motor oil in my forks who was sporting some white plates so I realize there is a lot of misinformation out there. But on the other hand a broad statement like that lumps in individuals like me who donate their time, tires, fuel and at times bikes to help new people for the pure love of the sport. We dont get paid for riding or helping out we simply get free track time which just for the record doesn't even BEGIN to cover a days worth of tires, fuel, and so on. I personally have been through 2 bikes and most recently a very nice stay at Valdosta medical center as a result of control riding. We are their for the new people who are just starting out and are simply trying to return the favor to the sport for those who took the time with us in the beginning. When these guys get to a point where they are beyond any further help from us we gladly step back and tell them its time to invest in a actual school like Bargy's. Again, not wishing to start a debate just want to set the record straight.

You guys are not the ones Todd is talking about. I think control riders are good things to have at track days to keep folks out of trouble and help point people in the right direction. Todd's talking about some track day guys who just read magazines and think they know something about what is going on at the track and try to coach people. New riders don't know the difference and it can lead to bad habits. Bad habits can be dangerous as the new track rider gets faster and if done long enough can be hard to break.

Most race schools like Ed's are much more comprehensive and go over most of the major topics of performance riding that new guys need to know (and experienced guys for that matter). We just try to get our students to know to be careful who they get their information from. My opinion is that for the most part the earlier you get good formal training the the earlier you learn to ride less by the seat of your pants, ride faster more safely, and gain tools for helping you work on getting faster if you want to race.

Shoot, I'm sure there are some control riders that are faster than me...except maybe Todd. :moon:

[HD1911]

I dont wish to start anything and to be honest I understand completely where Ed is coming from, I once had a guy tell me to run 10w/30 motor oil in my forks who was sporting some white plates so I realize there is a lot of misinformation out there. But on the other hand a broad statement like that lumps in individuals like me who donate their time, tires, fuel and at times bikes to help new people for the pure love of the sport. We dont get paid for riding or helping out we simply get free track time which just for the record doesn't even BEGIN to cover a days worth of tires, fuel, and so on. I personally have been through 2 bikes and most recently a very nice stay at Valdosta medical center as a result of control riding. We are their for the new people who are just starting out and are simply trying to return the favor to the sport for those who took the time with us in the beginning. When these guys get to a point where they are beyond any further help from us we gladly step back and tell them its time to invest in a actual school like Bargy's. Again, not wishing to start a debate just want to set the record straight.

Thats a very cool attitude to have! :up: PayItForward
That means alot when someone is willing to help out, teaching me things and helping me learn/get faster! I will do the same if i am ever in a position to do so...there are too many guys today just worried about themselves, but if you give a little, you will get alot in return. Like the J Timberlake song, "what goes around comes back around"


I truly LOVE this sport, as do you

[ToddClark]

Dude, I think you're preaching to the choir here.

Todd Clark is a instructor and a resident fast old guy to boot.:crackup: instructor yes, fast guy, i dont think so, but thanks man. :up:

You guys are not the ones Todd is talking about. I think control riders are good things to have at track days to keep folks out of trouble and help point people in the right direction. Todd's talking about some track day guys who just read magazines and think they know something about what is going on at the track and try to coach people. New riders don't know the difference and it can lead to bad habits. Bad habits can be dangerous as the new track rider gets faster and if done long enough can be hard to break.

Most race schools like Ed's are much more comprehensive and go over most of the major topics of performance riding that new guys need to know (and experienced guys for that matter). We just try to get our students to know to be careful who they get their information from. My opinion is that for the most part the earlier you get good formal training the the earlier you learn to ride less by the seat of your pants, ride faster more safely, and gain tools for helping you work on getting faster if you want to race.

Shoot, I'm sure there are some control riders that are faster than me...except maybe Todd. :moon:Thanks Lee, you hit the nail on the head.

Pitboy, seriously, i cant put it ANY better than Lee Fields (WERA 82) just did, thats all i was trying to tell the guy. :up: its all good man.

And Lee, you have your days, and i have mine, but you'll ALWAYS be older than me. :D

[WERA82]

:crackup: instructor yes, fast guy, i dont think so, but thanks man. :up:

Thanks Lee, you hit the nail on the head.

Pitboy, seriously, i cant put it ANY better than Lee Fields (WERA 82) just did, thats all i was trying to tell the guy. :up: its all good man.

And Lee, you have your days, and i have mine, but you'll ALWAYS be older than me. :D

True dat!:)

[ToddClark]

True dat!:)
BTW, did you get my voicemail i left you this afternoon?

[stickboy274]

Todd, you both are married. Your fobidden love will never be. Leave him alone

[418]

Todd, you both are married. Your fobidden love will never be. Leave him alone

Classic. :D

[ToddClark]

Stick, doesnt it suck to be jealous? :)

[stickboy274]

I'm not jealous of Lee. I know that you lust for me too :moon:

[ToddClark]

its been so long since ive been laid Stick, hell, you'll do!!!!! :crackup:

[stickboy274]

Not without dinner and a movie I won't.

[ToddClark]

:crackup: i think that could be arranged!

[stickboy274]

well then, we'll talk later. But you better call me the next day

[WERA82]

well then, we'll talk later. But you better call me the next day

Ah, how sweet. A little love connection....:Puke: :)

Todd,
I did get your message after reading these posts and that should be no problem. I'm pretty sure I'll be shooting on Wed so getting them to him before the 30th should be no problem. Is he doing the shock and the forks?

[stickboy274]

Now who's jealous?

[WERA82]

Now who's jealous?

If he calls you back the next day then I will be....:) :p

[ToddClark]

yep, doing both. :up:

[pucksdown]

Work killed my trip. Seems like working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Years Eve and Day would at least get me a few hours for the trip to Jennings. Boss wants me working late on Friday. see youse guys at Tally Jan. 19th.

[stickboy274]

That bites.

I'll be at Tally that weekend too.

[2Fer]

Hey Stick, you going to be at Jennings Feb 9-11?

[stickboy274]

No, I'll be at Tally for the first race

[2Fer]

oh yeah, I knew that, just seeing if you did haha, that means I will have to my wheels to Stumpy to give to you.

[stickboy274]

Kewl. I'll get you all set. You coming down this weekend?

[2Fer]

I wish, I got to work and I don't have the money, I am moving in about 2 weeks so most of my money is spoken for right now. I am looking forward to trying out Stone for the first time, if they are as good and I like them as much as everyone is saying I will, I will be sending lots of money your way this year.

[stickboy274]

I'm ok with you sending $$$ my way, and the 002's are really good.

[nig]

Do they grip better than the slicks? Or last longer?

[stickboy274]

They grip much better than the old slicks, and I had a team get 4 hours at RRR on a spritn front and they were running 1:16's at the end of the race. That's lasting pretty good.

[nig]

How old are the old slicks? Are there new ones? I'm just thinking of the YCX, YCY that everyone is using.

[stickboy274]

All the stuff we have now works. The slicks do have more grip than the DOT's. The ycx front and ycy rear is a great set up.

[2Fer]

hey stick sould you PM pricing for 10+ sets of slick 120/180

[stickboy274]

Yeah, I'll get it to you. I'm waiting on some info to come in, and then I will get it to you.

[2Fer]

cool thanks, is still have the pricing for the 002's has that changed or what?

[stickboy274]

I don't know. I'm waiting to see still.

[2Fer]

ok cool, the 002's compared to slicks, how is the life better worse or about the same?

[nig]

All the stuff we have now works. The slicks do have more grip than the DOT's. The ycx front and ycy rear is a great set up.

Thank you :)

[SpeedyTide]

Anyone gonna be there?

I'll be there Sat. & Sun. :D

[phishstyx]

I'll be there Sat-Mon, but only racing Sun/Mon. I cannot wait. I'm just really excited this is only my 2nd trackday and this will be the first on my actual trackbike. I'll stop blabbing now, see yall there tomorrow.

[stickboy274]

I'm here now. The weather was great yesturday adn will probably be good today too.

[duaneherndon]

Are there any concrete pads left?

I was going to try to come down tonight and ride tomorrow. :up:

Thanks

[stickboy274]

There may be some after some people leave. Right now there aren't any open that I can see. I haven't roamed up to the front today. I'm back by turn 12 right now, but I have to leave in a little while.

But first I gotta get some bar-b-q from the little truck over there.

[duaneherndon]

Thanks for the update!!!!:up:

[doc750]

they have these placards around the track with red dots on them. Just connect the dots for the fastest line around the track

[SpeedyTide]

GREAT weather Sat. & Sun!!

Crowded, but things ran pretty smooth!! Props to all the riders! :up:

[HD1911]

GREAT weather Sat. & Sun!!

Crowded, but things ran pretty smooth!! Props to all the riders! :up:

Man what a wonderful weekend! I am freakin' hooked on trackriding now!!! I had the best time of my life! Thanks to all you guys who gave advice: here on the Forum and at the Track :beer:

Here's a couple pics :D


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m119/HD1911/Jennings2.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m119/HD1911/Jennings1.jpg

[pucksdown]

You look ready to start racing for the ultimate addiction!

[HD1911]

You look ready to start racing for the ultimate addiction!

Haha, i dunno, i've only been to the track once now! I do wanna race tho, but i don't wanna be in over my head!

[418]

Lookin' good. :up:

[LiquidSnake]

Man what a wonderful weekend! I am freakin' hooked on trackriding now!!! I had the best time of my life! Thanks to all you guys who gave advice: here on the Forum and at the Track :beer:

Here's a couple pics :D


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m119/HD1911/Jennings2.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m119/HD1911/Jennings1.jpg

dood was looking good out there..... yeah i am hooked on the track now as well...
here's a few of me :D

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/psi4pwrky/Picture001-1.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/psi4pwrky/Picture002.jpg

[Smilodon]

Had big plans on riding Monday and spending New Year's Eve at the track, but a post-Christmas head cold "kept me away from" (made me too lazy to do) the needed bike/trailer preparations.

Glad the weather held up for y'all. Hope you had a fun New Year's celebration as well! :up:

Oh well, maybe next year! :D



Oh yeah HD1911... Congrats on your first track day! Looking good for a first timer. :up:

(Er... Better than me, actually. :p )

[HD1911]

Had big plans on riding Monday and spending New Year's Eve at the track, but a post-Christmas head cold "kept me away from" (made me too lazy to do) the needed bike/trailer preparations.

Glad the weather held up for y'all. Hope you had a fun New Year's celebration as well! :up:

Oh well, maybe next year! :D



Oh yeah HD1911... Congrats on your first track day! Looking good for a first timer. :up:

(Er... Better than me, actually. :p )

Hey thanks brutha! :up:

[HD1911]

O, and i have to give a HUGE SHOUTOUT to GMDComputrak for saving my weekend!!!! I had a fork seal problem and was leaking real bad on Sat. morning, they got me fixed up in like 10 minutes, and saved my weekend!!! Thanks guys! :beer:

[GixxerBlade]

There may be some after some people leave. Right now there aren't any open that I can see. I haven't roamed up to the front today. I'm back by turn 12 right now, but I have to leave in a little while.

But first I gotta get some bar-b-q from the little truck over there.
That BBQ suuuuurrrrre was good!

[stickboy274]

That stuff is the best. I brought some ribs home and I'm getting ready to finish it off now.

[SpeedyTide]

Man what a wonderful weekend! I am freakin' hooked on trackriding now!!! I had the best time of my life! Thanks to all you guys who gave advice: here on the Forum and at the Track :beer:

Here's a couple pics :D


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m119/HD1911/Jennings2.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m119/HD1911/Jennings1.jpg

You did REALLY well out their! Go to Expert on his 2nd day....BIG PROPS!!

I was the Control Rider pitted by Luke (whom was working with you) on the Crimson & yellow plates 600RR. You're going to do really well in future track days & racing...just keep learning and listening to the faster riders.

What do you think about getting an R6 instead? :D

[HD1911]

You did REALLY well out their! Go to Expert on his 2nd day....BIG PROPS!!

I was the Control Rider pitted by Luke (whom was working with you) on the Crimson & yellow plates 600RR. You're going to do really well in future track days & racing...just keep learning and listening to the faster riders.

What do you think about getting an R6 instead? :D

Hey whats up brother!? I just really started gettin into it! I ABSOLUTELY Love being on the track! I have to give LUKE Props for showing me the line and letting me run with him for several sessions on my first day! I ran 1.27's consistently on Sunday, my 2nd day! I was pretty stoked about it!

Yeah to be honest, i wan't an R6 now really badly :( I did however learn alot of throttle control lol! But the R1 is just too much for that track, and prolly all the other tracks.

[ExtraJ]

Does the guy who was taking pictures have a website?

I'd like to see a few

[LiquidSnake]

Does the guy who was taking pictures have a website?

I'd like to see a few

No web site but i have his e-mail.? superbikephoto@sprintpcs.com

[LiquidSnake]

I would also like to think Speedy Tide and Luke for the help over the weekend...

[SpeedyTide]

I would also like to think Speedy Tide and Luke for the help over the weekend...

Anytime bro! :up:

[fullmetalF4i]

Hey whats up brother!? I just really started gettin into it! I ABSOLUTELY Love being on the track! I have to give LUKE Props for showing me the line and letting me run with him for several sessions on my first day! I ran 1.27's consistently on Sunday, my 2nd day! I was pretty stoked about it!

Yeah to be honest, i wan't an R6 now really badly :( I did however learn alot of throttle control lol! But the R1 is just too much for that track, and prolly all the other tracks.

shit, took me 2 years to get down to 1:27 range. congrats...

[stickboy274]

He got almost as much track time last weekend as you did in your two years.